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manual63
10-02-2003, 12:28 PM
This issue has come up a few times in other areas, so I thought I would write about it here.

One thing that got me thinking about this was that people were talking about forks and other bike parts they were destroying. Not, that I don't destroy parts sometimes, but I keep it to a minimal by landing softer. It doesn't matter if you ride FS or not, you should always be using your body to compress on landings, acting as suspension.

I do see a lot of riders, the drop at Leb is a good example, that just ride off things and land with arms and legs stiff. By doing this your bike must take most of the shock of the landing, along with your bones and joints. I talk a lot about compressing your body, arms and legs mostly, in a lot of the riding tips. To do this, you can't just relax, but you can't be stiff either. You have to use your muscles to absorb the landing just right. It takes practice and you don't want to miss judge something or you will collapse onto your bike or tire or something.

If the surface I am going to land on is flat, then as I fall down towards the ground, I push the rear wheel down and extend my legs to their fullest. I keep the bars up as high as I can with my arms. It's almost like I am trying to pull the bars into my chest and push my rear wheel down to get the bike to be vertical or upright. I don't actually get it entirely upright, but the rear wheel should be a lot lower than the front. By pushing the rear wheel down (not waiting for it to land, but forcing it to the ground quicker) I just added a lot of room to cushion the landing. Then as the rear wheel touches the ground, I start to allow my legs to compress, but I use my muscles to give some resistance at the same time. Then the front wheel will start to fall, in most cases, I will have already absorbed most of the landing with my legs, so my front wheel should not come down too hard. When it does, I use my arms and allow them to compress as the front wheel lands.

If you do this, make sure you are using enough arm strength to keep your face from slamming into the stem or bars, which I have seen before. I have done it on an FS bike and it is no different. Someone told me that if you land rear wheel first on an FS bike, the suspension pushes up and causes you to bounce up real hard. I found this to be true only if you land stiff, but if you absorb the landing, the FS just makes it that much smoother.

On downside landings, it's much easier to absorb the landing. On a downside, you actually want to land front wheel first, then rear or both wheels at the same time. All you do is push the bike down equally with your arms and legs, then when it starts to touch the ground, absorb the landing with both your arms and legs at the same time. Your bike should be just the opposite as a flat landing by having your front wheel lower than your rear wheel, aligned with the angle of the downsided landing.

Like I said before, "control your bike, don't let your bike control you."

Tetreves
10-02-2003, 08:23 PM
Just to add to that, and I know that Shad has stated this before, but if you are travelling faster in the horizontal, you will land smoother.

Take the drop-off at Leb again: if you go faster before you drop, then you travel a longer distance in the air, right? But the main thing is that you decrease the angle of coincidence with the ground. This is also what makes downside landings smoother and easier.

If you travel closer to parrallel to the ground upon impact, it will be much smoother than a dead drop. For example, hit the table top fast enough to get a good amount of air, but concentrate on jumping HIGH, not far. You land on the TOP of the table top, and you come down hard. Now try to travel FARTHER (instead of higher), you should be able to hit the backside of the table, land on the downslope, and your landing will be much smoother.

Now what I want to know, is how to land better on an uphill slope...nevermind...:banana:

pwpatton
03-27-2004, 07:06 PM
I just bought a bike that has the manitou swinger rear shock and minute fork. I took some drops at low speed and it felt pretty soft. So if you want to land soft you could get more suspension :) hehe

manual63
04-05-2004, 08:54 PM
Because it's spring, I am giving people tips a lot on rides. When I get done with Chris....watch out, he will be a monster.....:D.

I just want to stress how to compress when you land. Even on a bunny hop. If your chain is smacking around and you make loud landing noises, you are not absorbing your landing. Your bike hates you for every stiff landing you do. Compress you arms and legs as soon as you feel or know your wheels are touching the ground. Just absorb is with ease and you bike and body will like you much more in the end.

Read my detailed explanation at the beginning of this thread. It should help you understand how to land softer. Also, don't be afraid to ask questions. Myself and others are more than willing to give you pointers.

pwpatton
04-05-2004, 09:38 PM
yes, shad is dead on with this. I built a hard tail this winter and on our ride last wed we did some drops in a park in st. paul (only 2 ft at most). I was surprised how soft I landed at first. But I realized that I was keeping loose and using my legs and harms to cushion (or absorb) the landing. It's all about control.

noise_is_life
04-06-2004, 08:21 AM
I built a hard tail this winterI still can't get over that you got that Komodo for $20, I'm green with envy.

I haven't ever payed much attention to how I land, I'll have to start thinking about that more.