Proposed new trails?

[The Goat Killer]

Well? Tell us.......... MORC!

[The Goat Killer]

Got trail map. :cool:

"C"

[ryno lite]

There is a small loop being built on Fridley City land this year. I'm not sure on the final distance, but around 3 miles I think. I don't know exactly where in the city and not sure about when it will open, but I know it is getting built.

[The Goat Killer]

At least one neighbor ain't gonna be happy with this trail route. Taht I know for sure! :shocked:

I'm not sure how the neighborhood hikers are going to react either?

FYI: the existing park trails are in nice shape as of now.

[gopherhockey]

At least one neighbor ain't gonna be happy with this trail route. Taht I know for sure! :shocked:

I'm not sure how the neighborhood hikers are going to react either?

FYI: the existing park trails are in nice shape as of now.

What are you getting at exactly. Are you here to support MORC or are you here to stir the pot with unconstructive comments? We just don't have time for the latter.

[Shorty]

At least one neighbor ain't gonna be happy with this trail route. Taht I know for sure! :shocked:

I'm not sure how the neighborhood hikers are going to react either?

FYI: the existing park trails are in nice shape as of now.

I'm sure if the neighborhood hikers had presented a plan to the city it would have been considered.

Don't like something? Fix it.

And if you want it to be a remotely permanent fix, you'll have to go through the proper channels. You won't make much headway by bending or breaking the rules.

MORC is trying to fix something... the organization as a whole doesn't think there are enough mountain bike trails in the state, so the organization is working to get more.

As a mountain biker, I'm surprised you don't support that effort.

[The Goat Killer]

I'm sure if the neighborhood hikers had presented a plan to the city it would have been considered.

Don't like something? Fix it.

That's what MORC is doing... the organization as a whole doesn't think there are enough mountain bike trails in the state, so the organization is working to get more.

As a mountain biker, I'm surprised you don't support that effort.

sooooooooo, where is this mystery trail, huh?

[The Goat Killer]

What are you getting at exactly. Are you here to support MORC or are you here to stir the pot with unconstructive comments? We just don't have time for the latter.

Did MORC ask the local community what they thought about the proposed park changes? How about the adjacent association?

[The Goat Killer]

I'm sure if the neighborhood hikers had presented a plan to the city it would have been considered.

Don't like something? Fix it.

And if you want it to be a remotely permanent fix, you'll have to go through the proper channels. You won't make much headway trying to bend, break, or make your own rules.

MORC is trying to fix something... the organization as a whole doesn't think there are enough mountain bike trails in the state, so the organization is working to get more.

As a mountain biker, I'm surprised you don't support that effort.

What about the hikers? Muti-use trail or MTB trail ONLY?

[The Goat Killer]

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At least one neighbor ain't gonna be happy with this trail route. Taht I know for sure! :shocked:

I'm not sure how the neighborhood hikers are going to react either?

FYI: the existing park trails are in nice shape as of now.



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What are you getting at exactly. Are you here to support MORC or are you here to stir the pot with unconstructive comments? We just don't have time for the latter.

Like I said (one) resident is going to be very unhappy when they find a MTB trail routed 50' from their back door. SE side.

I'm speaking as a resident who has lived in the area for 30 years.
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[gopherhockey]

Did MORC ask the local community what they thought about the proposed park changes? How about the adjacent association?

Not our job.

In general we play nice with hikers by avoiding conflicts with their trails or providing new opportunities to share our new trails.

If hikers and local home owners need to spend their time worrying about what we are doing hopefully they are smart enough to know who to contact. In general its never been a problem with us.

[Shorty]

Did MORC ask the local community what they thought about the proposed park changes? How about the adjacent association?

That is the city's responsibility. Ask them.

[The Goat Killer]

That is the city's responsibility. Ask them.

So, where is this "park". I'm waiting................

[The Goat Killer]

Not our job.

In general we play nice with hikers by avoiding conflicts with their trails or providing new opportunities to share our new trails.

If hikers and local home owners need to spend their time worrying about what we are doing hopefully they are smart enough to know who to contact. In general its never been a problem with us.

But they don't have a clue as to what's about to happen to their nice little wild sanctuary, do they?

How do you think the adjacent association is going to react when bikers find the nice South private property entrance to the park?

[gopherhockey]

But they don't have a clue as to what's about to happen to their nice little wild sanctuary, do they?

Like I said, not our job. Contact your local city/state/county if you have some concerns rather than just hinting around at it here.

[Shorty]

So, where is this "park". I'm waiting................

Somewhere in Fridley?

[The Goat Killer]

Like I said, not our job. Contact your local city/state/county if you have some concerns rather than just hinting around at it here.

I'm still asking, where is this place. As in name of park?

[Shorty]

At least one neighbor ain't gonna be happy with this trail route.

How about the adjacent association?


Like I said (one) resident is going to be very unhappy when they find a MTB trail routed 50' from their back door. SE side.

I'm speaking as a resident who has lived in the area for 30 years.
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How do you think the adjacent association is going to react when bikers find the nice South private property entrance to the park?

You don't know where the park is?

[The Goat Killer]

You don't know where the park is?

I'm asking MORC on a public forum.

[Shorty]

Maybe someone that is familiar with the project will post up.

Otherwise, try clicking on the 'Search' button.

[The Goat Killer]

Maybe someone that is familiar with the project will post up.

Otherwise, try clicking on the 'Search' button.

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

Must be top secret, huh?

I'm getting a little upset..........

[Shorty]

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

Must be top secret, huh?

I'm getting a little upset..........

It's been posted before... the only thing you should be getting upset with is your lack of patience and effort.

Search "Fridley" and start looking through threads. Or wait until someone in the know posts a reply.

[The Goat Killer]

It's been posted before... the only thing you should be getting upset with is your inability to do a simple search.

Search "Fridley" and "new".

The name of the park brings up Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

The search was done in all open forums.

[Shorty]

The name of the park brings up Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

Then you probably have the wrong park, or there is a spelling error.

Search "Fridley" and start looking through the 35 matching threads.

Or wait until someone in the know posts a reply.

[dvo1]

I know nothing,................

[The Goat Killer]

Then you probably have the wrong park, or there is a spelling error.

Search "Fridley" and start looking through the 35 matching threads.

Or wait until someone in the know posts a reply.

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

My spelling is correct. I have the right park and the proposed trail map right in my little paws. I know the area like the back of my hand.

[manual63]

I am posting this for mara since she can't get logged into the forums right now.

Fridley approached us, I believe, and the proposed trail is a part of the public parks and rec council meeting minutes at least as far back as the summer of 2006 so if anyone in town doesn't know what is going on or will be blindsided by this project, it's because they haven't been paying any attention to what is going on in their very public government.

Oh, and I also agree with this statement.

[The Goat Killer]

I am posting this for mara since she can't get logged into the forums right now.

Fridley approached us, I believe, and the proposed trail is a part of the public parks and rec council meeting minutes at least as far back as the summer of 2006 so if anyone in town doesn't know what is going on or will be blindsided by this project, it's because they haven't been paying any attention to what is going on in their very public government.

Oh, and I also agree with this statement.

So all the peeps that vist this site have been informed? Why then can't I find the park name anywere on the MORC site? Why so secretive??? I'm smelling something.

[manual63]

So all the peeps that vist this site have been informed? Why then can't I find the park name anywere on the MORC site?

I believe mara is referring to the city files where they post the meeting minutes with details about what is going on in peoples neighborhoods. People who live in certain cities, if they care about their backyards, should pay more attention to what their local government is doing.

Mostly only mountain bikers visit the MORC site. So why would someone who doesn't mountain bike come here and find out a trail is going 50' from their back yard?

[ryno lite]

So all the peeps that vist this site have been informed? Why then can't I find the park name anywere on the MORC site? Why so secretive??? I'm smelling something.


There is nothing to smell. The city approached us, the two of us arranged grant money, and the trail is going to be built. All the proper hoops have been jumped thru. This is a project the City of Fridley wanted and they asked for our help, so we helped them. There have been multiple mentions of an upcoming trail project in Fridley. Personally, I am from Minneapolis and don't know Fridley one bit, so I personally don't know the name of the park. There is nothing to hide here. We like to tell people about new trails. It's good advertisement for our group if we can relay upcoming trails. The members of MORC like to hear about upcoming riding oppurtunities. It does no good for us to hide this.

[manual63]

Hey Gary.....basically you are blaming the wrong people. We are a mountain bike advocacy group who advocates mountain bike trails.

Just like any other group or project, if people are concerned about their neighborhoods, they need to go to city council meetings or at least read up on meeting minutes posted on their websites. Or go to city hall and read them.

Mountain bikers are not the only groups wanting to put trails or other things in peoples neighborhoods, but cities are usually pretty good at making things public information about what is going on in their neighborhoods. If a resident isn't paying attention........then they may be surprised when a huge statue of "name famous figure here" is placed right in front of their property block the nice sunrise they enjoy every day.

Take you frustrations elsewhere please.

[manual63]

Another one from mara:

I found the park name on the website in at least four threads. I also find it in the city's park and rec meeting notes that spend pages discussing the proposed trail. It's fascinating reading, if one were so inclined.

[ryno lite]

I also found the park's name within 60 seconds of a forum search. It's out there, we haven't hidden it from anybody.

[The Goat Killer]

I also found the park's name within 60 seconds of a forum search. It's out there, we haven't hidden it from anybody.

Yeah, I did a copy and paste of the parks name from City of Fridley's website. Searched all open forums. What's up with that?

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

[The Goat Killer]

Hey Gary.....basically you are blaming the wrong people. We are a mountain bike advocacy group who advocates mountain bike trails.

Just like any other group or project, if people are concerned about their neighborhoods, they need to go to city council meetings or at least read up on meeting minutes posted on their websites. Or go to city hall and read them.

Mountain bikers are not the only groups wanting to put trails or other things in peoples neighborhoods, but cities are usually pretty good at making things public information about what is going on in their neighborhoods. If a resident isn't paying attention........then they may be surprised when a huge statue of "name famous figure here" is placed right in front of their property block the nice sunrise they enjoy every day.

Take you frustrations elsewhere please.

I want to know why MTB'ers HERE on MORC are not being informed. What kind of outfit you running here anyways?

[The Goat Killer]

I also found the park's name within 60 seconds of a forum search. It's out there, we haven't hidden it from anybody.

you lie.

[dvo1]

I agree the park name is NOT listed.

[The Goat Killer]

I mean, I've helped with Theo, done the mountain bike racing thing, check the MORC site for MTB'ing INFO and right out my back door, new trails are in the works and I haven't a clue. So I check into MORC to get some info and get brow-beat and double talked to. Yeah, I'm pissed off. What kind of outfit you running anyways?

[jitterjepp]

you lie.
Troll.

[The Goat Killer]

Troll.

Please, don't get me going anymore.

[Nickel]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1291/1291850631_c069512430_m.jpg (http://www.google.com/search?q=Fridley++site:www.morcmtb.org&hl=en&start=10&sa=N)

Cheers (http://www.ci.fridley.mn.us/parksrec/commission/minutes/AUG-06.pdf), eh?

[jitterjepp]

Please, don't get me going anymore.If I have the power to get people "going" or doing things I'm going to have them go out and do the following.

1. give me their pay checks.
2. clean my house and wash my dishes for free.
3. have guys I don't like crap themselves in front of pretty girls they like in very public places.




Unfortunately you're all very lucky. I'd be collecting paychecks. You're the only one with the power to get you "going"

[gopherhockey]

I have 0 tolerance for trolls. I'm closing this.

Gary H, if you want to start a respectful and insightful conversation feel free to do so. Please don't take pot shots at MORC and then ask why a few people might get upset. You know darn well what you are doing here.