Trail Conditions in Detail - Murphy Hanrehan (Singletrack Trail)

[Shorty]

This thread is for trail conditions only (wetness/dryness of trail, trees down, damaged trail feature, etc.) It is a resource for trail users (and the land manager) to quickly find details about the current trail conditions. It will be moderated to keep it on topic (if it's off topic, please start a new thread).

Check the date of the posts - THIS IS AN OLD POST!!

For the most current trail conditions check the most recent post.

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.


Thanks!!

[Shorty]

Current Conditions 5/25 9:00 am

Trail is too wet to ride with yesterday's rains.

Three Rivers crews are working on the finishing touches of the trail and will give a trail report later in the day.

I'd say plan for later in the weekend... don't get your hopes up for today.

[Shorty]

I just got off the phone with the Three Rivers crew that is out there working... the trail is pretty wet. The trail is not rideable, and may not be rideable at all today.

I will post updated trail conditions at about 3pm.

[Shorty]

The Three Rivers crew said it should be ready in a couple hours.

Please wait until about 5 or 6pm to do a lap.

It's brand new trail, so please take it easy. The tread needs some compacting... it could easily get ripped up if you push the limits.

Thanks!!!!!

[ryno lite]

Whoo Hooo!

[gopherhockey]

Trail was damp - the small blocks were packing up with mud in spots, but I don't think it was doing damage - the trail is fresh and just needs some good packing in. I think opening it now and riding it in was a good move.

Be aware that the trail is brand new - its not at all worn in and is very slow right now. Still some face slappers and areas a bit difficult to see the trail (weeds) but that will all sort itself out with traffic in no time!

[Shorty]

Since the trail is so new and hasn't been compacted, it will not take much rain to make it too wet to ride. The weather people are forecasting thunderstorms for today, so you may get rained out.

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

[Trevize1138]

Got in a ride this morning just before the real light rain started up. It's sunnying up now and I don't think the light rain we got would have affected the trail much at all.

The trail is soft but I wouldn't classify it as wet :). It's definitely soft due to being totally, absolutely fresh new trail! :banana: Judging by the cars already in the lot at 10 a.m. this morning I think it's gonna firm up over this weekend really nice.

[Shorty]

Trail conditions are damn near perfect!!

Get out there and ride!!

[oilcan]

Are the trails ready for action?

[Trevize1138]

Are the trails ready for action?

I would guess the scattered rain we're getting today wouldn't affect the trail much at all. It was getting downright dusty this weekend and much of it has hardened up a whole lot.

[Burke]

Extremely hard downpour in SW Bloomington for about 5 minutes. Not sure how that'll impact things, or even if it rained at the trail.

[Burke]

Word from Pete C at the trail is that it's wet enough to be slimy. Please stay off until it has time to dry.

[Shorty]

The trail was definitely slime-covered this evening. Give it a day or two of no rain and it should be good.


When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!!

[smklugherz]

Has anyone checked out the trail today. I have heard it said before that trails dry out faster when it is windy (or am I totally off base on this). I have been out of the country for the last two weeks and need to get on a bike in a bad way! Would love to check out 10 beautiful miles of fresh cut single track.

[vsnofjohana]

Made the drive down today. It was a bit slimy in spots and soft shoulders in others. I would give it a full day without rain before gettin' on it. Track is just too new and soft to handle the rain.

[Shorty]

I would give it a full day without rain before gettin' on it. Track is just too new and soft to handle the rain.

Thanks for the update Kirk. You're right about the new tread not being able to handle this rain.

As long as the rains aren't too constant, one good sunny day with wind could do it (hopefully).

Until the trail has had a chance to firm up, you'll want to stay off it. Please be patient, and have the willpower to cancel a ride or cut a ride short if it isn't ready.


Thanks!

[gopherhockey]

Trail was damp last night. There were some areas in the initial Intermediate loop that were probably too wet to be riding, but the expert loop and the last half of the Intermediate were just fine.

As the crew addresses the "line" the trail will come together and the areas where riders are slipping off the trail will go away. Until then, keep your speeds down - especially because I know this is a new trail to us all and we can't know exactly what is around each corner.

Face slappers and arm grabbers are showing up.

Bugs... bugs bugs bugs. Dope up and don't stop for too long. I don't think I've ever inhaled so many bugs before riding a trail. I'm sure the recent rains have not helped this.

[soupboy]

Anyone out this AM?

[setzep]

Anyone out this AM?

I was out yesterday pm and the trails were a little damp in some areas but mostly just new moist dirt that needed to be rode on.
I wonder if the rain hit the trails today... Was really patchy rain and most of it stuck to the east of 35w. Would like to hit the trails tomorrow if the rain didn't get to them.

[rrgundy]

Rode it this morning around 7:30. Trail was laid out really well and I'm fired up to have a sweet new trail< 5 minutes from my house. The trails were a little greasy and soft, but not as bad as I expected. Went back to ride again this afternoon and bagged it. The rain was pouring down...probably 30-45 minutes.

[Shorty]

Went back to ride again this afternoon and bagged it. The rain was pouring down...probably 30-45 minutes.

Thanks for the update Randy.

With the trail already being greasy and soft, this additional rain will make it too wet to ride. I'd guess at least a day or two of dry weather will be needed before it is open again. As usual...


When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[daveyp]

Wow, absolutely great trail!! THANKS! New large tree down just past 75 marker post. Upper story all over trail use caution.

[Shorty]

Wow, absolutely great trail!! THANKS! New large tree down just past 75 marker post. Upper story all over trail use caution.

Thanks David.

When were you riding? How was the trail?

[Digger]

Any reports? If it is good, I would like to ride out there around 6:30.

[gopherhockey]

We need to find some people who live nearby to help with updates. I want to ride too, but I think I'll wait on Murphy unless someone has a report. I'm guessing they got a little more rain than we did in Eagan.

[daveyp]

I live fairly close to Murphy and over weekend we got .25" total and suspect Murphy got same, so not as much as some Metro areas. Murphy appears to not dry out as fast as some of the other trails due to heavy canopy and the soil seems naturally damp in spots.
Must have been folks in yesterday as there are some definite mud tracks/slight ruts in areas....not good.
Today it was a bit greasy in a few of those areas, but with very light treads and good sense I felt it was OK marginally and I made little or no impact with no mud on me or bike after full loop. It would be better tomorrow for sure though.

[Shorty]

Any reports? If it is good, I would like to ride out there around 6:30.

Not looking good... with the fact that it is such new trail and it is already greasy.

There are a bunch of scattered rain/thunderstorms coming through the cities right now (~3:25pm). They're coming in from the north and heading straight toward Murphy (weather.com radar).

The weather pattern lately hasn't been helpful to Murphy... scattered rains coming through every once in a while keeping it greasy and soft. The trail is new and won't dry out as fast as other trails (especially if it keeps getting riders when it is too soft).

Please stay off the trail until the trail has had time to get drier and firm up.

Three Rivers crews should be removing the downed tree today or tomorrow.

Thanks!

[bowmanmark]

How does it look today

[Shorty]

How does it look today

I'd guess it would be worth checking on later in the afternoon/early evening.

[oilcan]

I'd guess it would be worth checking on later in the afternoon/early evening.

Release the hounds!

[tedsti]

It poured out there at around noon. I would guess things will be too wet until tomorrow.

[Shorty]

Thanks for the update Ted.


As usual...

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!!

[manual63]

Any updates on trial conditions? I know we got a brief shower overnight. If we get missed by all the storms today, we might want to ride it in the late afternoon if it's dry.

[Shorty]

If we get missed by all the storms today, we might want to ride it in the late afternoon if it's dry.

Did you ride today?

[newp]

Looking for any trail condition updates. I going there after work around 3ish to check otherwise, and hopefully ride.

[mill0298]

I was out yesterday afternoon for a couple of laps. Trail was in great shape witht the exeption of the GIGANTIC tree that had fallen across the trail on the section heading back towards the start from the expert section. There were actually a few trees that fell right in this area with branches covering the trail. I am guessing TRPD gets out there occasionally to clear this stuff out??

[setzep]

I'm going out in a few min. I'll post conditions when I get back.

[mara]

the GIGANTIC tree that had fallen across the trail on the section heading back towards the start from the expert section.

Between markers 87 and 88, I think. I would not want to be on that hillside in a heavy wind or severe storm.

[Trevize1138]

Tail is in perfect shape with the only exception being a greasy area on the first leg of the intermediate loop. There is also precisely one foot-wide puddle in the advanced loop. :cool:

[mill0298]

Between markers 87 and 88, I think. I would not want to be on that hillside in a heavy wind or severe storm.


I was out there yesterday in all that heavy wind. It was a little scary, especially after having a decent sized branch fall and hit me in the helmet, then seeing that tree down...:jumpy:

[setzep]

Tail is in perfect shape with the only exception being a greasy area on the first leg of the intermediate loop. There is also precisely one foot-wide puddle in the advanced loop. :cool:

Just like he said :)

I think I saw you out there, the glasses are unmistakenable :D

I like this trail more and more everytime I ride it!

[Trevize1138]

Just like he said :)

I think I saw you out there, the glasses are unmistakenable :D

I like this trail more and more everytime I ride it!

I'm kind of liking my new avatar for this reason :). I've met a lot more people from the forums in real life thanks to it!

Next time feel free to say "Hi" dude!

[Shorty]

Trail was dry today (Saturday), and dusty in a couple of the corners.

A few soft spots that need fixing, but nothing major - mostly on the first two sections of intermediate trail in the woods.

All the downed trees have been cleared.

[Shorty]

Adjustments were made to a couple rock features in the expert loop, and to some of the corners of the intermediate loop.

Trail looked good today.

[WildBill]

FYI, 154th St is closed at the hwy 27(Allen Blvd) intersection by the Prior Lake/Savage High School. I believe you can still get to the trail from the Burnsville side or obviously the back stone roads to Murphy Lake road. The city of Savage said it will be closed to about the end of August.

[jag]

Tree down across the trail right before the corner going into the step bridge. I broke off some branches so we could hike over it. Would be a good one for a ramp on both sides to roll over it?

[Shorty]

Thanks for clearing the branches Jim.

It's about waist high so it's easy to hike-a-bike over it.

The tree is across the trail on the short uphill section before the step bridge, so keep your head up when you're riding the downhill section after trail marker 66.

It should be gone in the next couple days.


Thanks!

[Shorty]

The tree after marker 66 has been removed. Trail is dry and dusty.

A HUGE thanks to Three Rivers for removing the recent blow-downs!!

It hasn't been a good two months for downed trees... hopefully the rest of the summer won't be so windy.

[Shorty]

Looks like some rain will be moving through the area tonight.
And they're forecasting scattered storms for the next few days.

Just a reminder...

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

[incendiarySYS]

Does anyone know how much rain actually fell in the Murphy area or how dry the trail is?

[Shorty]

Here's weather information for the area. This reporting station is about 1 mile from Murphy:

http://weather.wcco.com/auto/wccoV2/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMNSAVAG1

Looks like rain came through the park a few times overnight, and it just got rain again at about 7.
The park got about .5" of rain between last night and early this morning.

I'd guess it MIGHT be rideable later in the day if we don't get more rain.

We'll be out there getting ready for trailwork soon... maybe someone will have a phone with internet access to post current conditions.

[Ogre]

It rained farily hard all night.
Still pretty damp, sprinkling right now.
(I live 3.5 miles directly north of trail)

I have to help a buddy move today,
but I could swing by in the afternoon
if someone hasn't posted info later.

I can't imagine it will be good for riding until late
afternoon at best.

[ryno lite]

It was a bit wet for riding this morning during trailwork. I'd guess it should be pretty good by late afternoon or evening.

[Shorty]

The trail was soft until about 1:00 today. The conditions looked great by the afternoon.

A BIG THANKS to all of those people that changed their plans and didn't ride this morning (hopefully you were able to get out and ride later). The trail volunteers appreciate your patience!!

It doesn't seem like a few hours can make a difference, but it REALLY can change that fast. At 10:00 the tread was soft, people were easily leaving marks in the trail, and tires were packed with mud (unfortunately some people chose to ride). By 1:00, after the trail had a chance to dry, riders were returning with clean tires.

The MORC forums and local weather websites will be your best resource when planning rides during questionable weather. A lot of factors go into it... how much rain fell, the humidity levels, how windy it is, how sunny it is after the rain, how dry the trail was before the rain, soil types, etc. Please be patient if it isn't ready.

Since the trail attracts people from all around the metro (and you may not get rain at your house when Murphy gets rain), here is a weather station that is within a mile of Murphy:

http://weather.wcco.com/auto/wccoV2/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMNSAVAG1


Also... the trail is MUCH, MUCH more fun to ride when you can get traction. :D


THANKS!

[JHM]

A fast line of storms just swept past SW Burnsville. Not sure how much it rained but it didn't last long. The radar looks clear to the west and the wind is pretty strong.

Maybe by this evening the trail will be good? I hope to be out later, if anyone checks out the trail sooner please post up.

Thanks.

[ryno lite]

Looks like .2 inches so far in Savage and there is more potential for rain today. I'd say this would be a great day to stay off of the trail.

[Shorty]

Actually .02 inches of rain so far according to the nearest reporting station.

I'd guess it will be too wet and greasy for a few hours. Might be OK by late afternoon or evening if we don't get more rain.

If we get more rain, it won't be rideable today.

Thanks!!

[ryno lite]

Guess I can't read the table too well. Looks like they just got another .01 at about 4 pm for a total of .03 for the day.

[ryno lite]

Bone dry! Could use some rain.

[bigwheel]

6/20 noon. Good condition.

[Shorty]

It has been pretty windy lately, so look out for low trees and branches on the trail.

Also looks like some rain is moving through the area tonight.

Just a reminder...

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

[Standard]

As of about 9pm only some light showers had passed through. Had a lightning strike that sparked a brush fire, I think, but other than that... good trails.

[Shorty]

Just under .10" of rain last night, but the humidity is dropping and the winds have been picking up. The trail was so dry beforehand it will probably be OK this afternoon if we don't get more rain (unfortunately, they are forecasting more rain).

It will likely be unrideable today if we get significant rains.

[Shorty]

Trail was tacky at noon, with a half dozen puddles in spots that are cupped.

Rain came through at around 3:00, and it looks like there is more on the way.
The trail will most likely be too wet to ride today.

Time for a road ride!!

[Yammer]

Is it rideable today?

[Shorty]

I would guess that the trail will be in good condition today (as long as we don't get rain).

[3gmikey]

I rode there yesterday, what a blast! The trail is in great shape (nice job by the hands of MORC and volunteers, thanks). What a rollercoaster ride that trail can be! The trail was pretty dry with the exception of a few very small standing puddles. If we don't get any rain today the trail will be just awesome this weekend.

[Pandl]

any rain there today?

[Yammer]

any rain there today?

According to this site
http://weather.wcco.com/auto/wccoV2/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMNSAVAG1

their up to 0.26 inches down there :hit:

so much for my Friday-take-off-early-from-work-ride.

[Shorty]

.33" of rain this afternoon. It'll be too wet to ride today.

Should be a fantastic weekend though (for riding and trailwork)... they're not forecasting rain!!

[setzep]

Anyone out yet today?

[setzep]

Just got back from a ride that I cut short. Maybe it's just me but it seems the trail is being eroded away. A lot of loose soil in the turns and the negative grades and vegetation growth doesn't help the situation. One good thing is there isn't any standing water but a little moist in low areas.

[ryno lite]

Trail is mostly dry. Should be perfect tomorrow.

There is a tree down in the intermediate loop right after marker #55. It's in an area where riders don't carry much speed so it shouldn't be a problem, but be aware of it. We'll inform 3RPD to take care of it ASAP.

There are a few turns that are a little loose out there that we will adjust and fix as time permits. Any new trail will have a few issues that need to be worked out once we see how riders handle the trail. For the most part, I think the trail is holding up pretty well, but there will be plenty of fixes and maintenance in the coming months!

[setzep]

I forgot to mention, don't be scared of the strange looking people with the large antennas and pop up campers in the parking lot :) They are catching some radio waves or some strange stuff. Don't think they are terrorists:fool:

[Pandl]

The antenna people were taking em down and packing up when I got there today about 1:30. Saw several other bikers. First time there, loved it. Didn't try the Most Difficult section. Interesting the variance in More difficult between Murphy & Leb. I will go back again. Saw a female with a MORC sticker on the back of her car that finished about the same time as me. Also saw, I think a guy, resting (sleeping) in his air conditioned green Subaru with two bikes on the top, one being a Klein. Camelback hit the fallen tree first time thru.

[Nita]

Rode Sunday, conditions are hard-packed with dust in the corners, and rolling really fast. I let some air out of my tires for some hook-up but it didn't seem to help very much.

[Shorty]

About .14" of rain so far this afternoon, and they say we may get more.

The trail will be too wet to ride today, but will hopefully be ready sometime tomorrow.


Remember...

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[Captain Willard]

Planning a 9 am ride at Smurph and driving from St. Paul so would appreciate any updates folks can provide b/t now and 8 am as to rainfall in Savage or appropriateness of a morning ride given whatever fell out there today/tonight. Muchas Gracias

[Shorty]

It's a tough call at this point... 9am is pretty early. They got some more rain about an hour ago for a total of .15 of an inch. With the high humidity, the relatively low winds, and the fact that the sun is setting soon, I'd be pretty surprised if it was dry by 9am.

It should be great later in the afternoon!! (That's probably not much help to you though). Often waiting just a few hours can make a BIG difference.

As the sign says at the trailhead: "please allow trails to dry before use"


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[trompete]

Rode today @ 1 PM. Trail was dry except a few damp spots in the intermediate section.

[MickUZE]

Great ride our there! Started at 4:00pm and totally dry and rippi'n.
I was at a barbecue later only a mile away form the trail and never rained so its going to be in good shape.
First time on the trail and it totally rips!
Nice trail get out there and ride.

UZE

[chervianne]

Hit the trail at 7 PM... the storm that hit the Metro completely missed Murphy. Beautiful night!

[dopey048]

The trail is perfect. My first time out there today. I will definitely be back. Thanks to those who have put in their time on the trail.

[Shorty]

Murphy got about 2/3 of an inch of rain this evening. The trail will be too wet to ride tomorrow morning and early afternoon. If there isn't more rain overnight, it might be rideable by later in the afternoon on Monday.

As the sign says at the trailhead: "Please allow trails to dry before use."

[Yammer]

Is the road west of Murphy open yet? or do you still have to take the East road there?

[Yammer]

Is the road west of Murphy open yet? or do you still have to take the East road there?

No it still appears to be closed.
Trail is dry and dusty, loose in some areas.
But very fast and fun.

[Kingbozo]

Rode the new Murphy for the first time. May I offer a big thank you to all involved? Fantastic! What a great trail!

Conditions were great.

The road from the West is still closed, as I rudely discovered this morning.

[Shorty]

There was a tree down across the trail after marker 75. It is farily small and sitting on the ground... easily rideable.

It could probably be moved by two people.

I'll be out there in the next couple days with a handsaw, and can take care of it if it is still there.

Otherwise... Dusty!

[bigwheel]

Pete, We'll have a group out there tomorrow. If someone remembers to pack a hand saw, we'll try to move it. That'll also take the pressure off of us from thinking we need to do a timed lap.

[bigwheel]

Wed 7/18 9pm

Bone dry. The rain storms were everywhere, except for Murphy. Trail is dusty and could use the moisture.

[TB0NE]

Wed 7/18 9pm

Bone dry. The rain storms were everywhere, except for Murphy. Trail is dusty and could use the moisture.

Agreed. Rode it last night, needs some moisture. Great first time out to Murphy though. Good job.

[Torpedo]

Rode Murphy for the first time, loved it. Only a couple miles from home, can't believe I have hit this before. Very nice work.
The log beam ride is hard!...still bleeding...

[Homegrown]

Rode Murphy this morning still bone dry and dusty...last nights rain did nothing for the trail.

Someone needs to do a rain dance.

[Kingbozo]

Bone dry (surprise) On the sections that have a sharp drop on the side, some of the outside edges seem to be crumbling off and disappearing down the hill side.

Anyone know what happened out there today? There was some shouting and a little while later an Ambulance showed up.

[Pandl]

I got there about 2:00, and I didn't see or here anything.

Rode the inside loop for the first time. Had a GREAT time! Rode and made it over several of the obstacles. Loved it!!

[Shorty]

Almost 1/2 an inch of rain today at Murphy. It will likely be too wet to ride tomorrow morning, especially since there's a possibility of more rain overnight.

We'll be out at the trail in the morning and try and get an update posted as soon as possible.

It should be ready to ride later in the day.


When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[Shorty]

The trail was probably too wet for an early morning ride, but it looked great by late morning.

Get out and ride!

[Nita]

Rode late afternoon Sunday, the trail is a 'new' trail due to the rain, nice to have some traction finally. The trail work done earlier in the day works very well, especially the fix on the ledge in the advanced loop. It was nice to work with you all.

[MikeyB]

Rode last night, bone dry like everywhere else. Some of the edges of the trail are eroding into sand traps.

[chewie_52]

Any hope the trail will be dry enough to ride by afternoon?

[Shorty]

The area around Murphy recieved anywhere from 1" to 2.75" of rain overnight (the nearest reporting station got knocked out by the storm and has incomplete data at this point).

The trail will be too wet this morning, but with the heat and the wind it should be great later in the afternoon. Based on previous observations, I'd wait until at least mid-afternoon to check on it.

The trail has been taking quite a beating with the dry/dusty conditions... riding it before it has had a chance to dry and get firmed up will only make things worse.

This is a great opportunity for Three Rivers Park Patrol to get out and do some educating about riding wet trails.

[Shorty]

Anyone get out to Murphy today?

Are there any new trees down?

(Other than the tree that fell about a week ago... which is in a good location and rideable.)

[Shorty]

Looks like the storms this evening dropped another 1/2" or more (some stations said the south metro got another 1+ inches of rain this evening).

The trail will most likely be too wet in the morning, but with the heat and the wind it should be great later in the afternoon as long as there isn't more rain overnight.

Please be patient and give the trail some time to firm up.

It is amazing what a few extra hours can do... please give the sun, wind, and heat a chance to do it's job before riding the trail.

Thanks!

[Shorty]

Trail was in great shape today. Perfect riding conditions by around noon or so.

We didn't see any downed trees during trailwork, and the riders we spoke to hadn't seen any either.

[Shorty]

Murphy received over 2" of rain overnight. Most likely the trail will be too wet for most of the day (if not all day).

Please be patient and give the trail some time to firm up.

It is amazing what a few extra hours can do... please give the sun, wind, and heat a chance to do it's job before riding the trail.

Thanks!

[Digger]

Has anyone had a chance to see how wet/dry the trail is yet?
Thanks.

[Wolfchimp]

Murphy conditions?????

[Shorty]

It was on the damp side of rideable mid-afternoon today. Quite a few soft corners so you had to go easy on 'em. A couple of the easy loop corners got pretty chewed up, and will have to be fixed.

Should be great on Wednesday!!

[John Sandberg]

Rode it this morning. Awesome traction, nothing slippery. Perfect.

[chewie_52]

Trail was great tonight!!! A few slick spots and some overgrown brush in the prairie, but otherwise awesome!!!

[rihaha]

The ride tonight was great. Trail was good. Sometime between Monday night and tonight they moved the trail around marker 75, the area with the double switchback with the rooted second corner, and made two new burms. Makes the area nicer and more fun to ride.

[MikeyB]

Trail was sweet just an hour ago. Really fast right now. Around the 66 marker the hill is starting to claim back the trail. Also before 77 (I think) a couple head slappers as you get around the corner.

[Shorty]

As of 11:30pm Saturday evening, Murphy has received a significant rainfall... about 1 1/3" of rain, so far.

With more rain, lower temps, and overcast/cloudy conditions in the forecast, the trail will stay wet longer than it has been lately.

I'd suspect the trail will be too wet to ride tomorrow, maybe longer if the forecast is correct.

I'll contact Three Rivers and recommend they use this opportunity to educate users about riding wet trails.

Looks like a fairly unsettled weather pattern this week, so here's a reminder...

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[Shorty]

Murphy got an additional .62" today, which brings the total for the last 4 days up to 3.01".

It's obviously too wet to ride... as posted at the trailhead; "Please allow trails to dry before use."

With the rain, lack of sun, and cooler temps, it will take a while for the trail to dry out.

I'll be in contact with Three Rivers tomorrow morning, and will post up any news ASAP.

[Shorty]

Murphy has been getting small amounts of rain over the last 2 days (in addition to the 3" of rain before that)... so with the lower temps and the lack of sun, it hasn't had a chance to dry out.

Looks like a good day for a road ride!


Remember...

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[Shorty]

Raining again...

Forecasters say we'll likely get another .20" - .60" of rain today.

The trail will need a fair amount of time to firm up after all this rain...

The trail probably won't be rideable until sometime this coming weekend.

[Shorty]

Murphy got another 1/4" of rain yesterday.

Even though it is clearing up and getting sunny, it will take a while to dry out... we've received some soaking rains over the last week.

I doubt it'll be ready today (Friday), and probably won't be ready until sometime on Saturday.

A good day for a road ride! Or go hang out at Afton!!

[fatbaldpop1]

ok 2 ride Saturday evening, I assume?

[THUMP!]

Trail was nice and tacky this afternoon.

[Shorty]

The trail was good to go this afternoon.

There is some recent damage caused by people that rode the trail before it was ready.

One low hanging tree was removed.

[fatbaldpop1]

Thanks for the update. Trail conditions were great. Felt like a pro out there with how tacky it was. Off camber portions are fun...the return section of the intermediate trail is sweet at high speed.

[Shorty]

Sunday night's storms dumped about .2" of rain on Murphy.

Possibility of rain later today.

The trail was mostly tacky yesterday... but with all the moisture in the soil, last night's rain will likely make the trail unrideable for all of today.


When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[John Sandberg]

Finished a lap at 8 pm tonight, trail was mostly tacky, slightly greasy in a few sections (no tire ruts, just slick) and dry as a bone in the open areas.

[Shorty]

Cool, thanks for the update.

With the strong winds, and the fact that it didn't rain again, it probably made for some decent conditions by this evening. It sounds like the slick/greasy conditions weren't significant.

In general...

Please Use Good Judgment, and Consider the Bigger Picture When Deciding to Ride:

Under slick or greasy conditions, the trail is more susceptible to getting washed out and/or cupped...

This means more maintenance due to accelerated wear on the tread...

Since maintenance and dealing with water flow issues will always come before the fun stuff, planned features like more log rides, rock gardens, elevated ladders, jumps, and berms will get bumped down the list of projects.

If there are a large number of slick/greasy spots, I'd recommend not riding.

[setzep]

Rode also tonight, I thought the trail was in pretty good shape. One puddle a little before the log ride is all I saw. No mud slinging. I also noticed someone had driven a 4-wheeler on the trail for ~1/8 mile. Could this have been park people? I've seen the 2 wheel atv they have but these were deff 4 wheeler tracks. It was also good to see a couple 3 river park police patrol the lot. Saw a charger and a grand cherokee.

[Shorty]

Murphy got about 1/3" of rain with the storms this morning (Tues. early AM).

The trail will be too wet to ride today, and if we get more rain it will be unrideable this evening too. By the looks of the forecast and the radar, more rain is on the way.

As posted at the trailhead - "Please allow trails to dry before use."

If the forecast holds true, the trail should be great by Wednesday afternoon.

[Shorty]

More rain moving through Murphy right now.

It'll be too wet for evening rides today.

The forecast calls for clearing tomorrow... hopefully we'll get enough sun and wind during the day to dry up the trail for tomorrow's time trial race.

The trail will likely be too soft to ride until mid/late afternoon tomorrow.

[Shorty]

Two trees down.

One got cleaned up, but the other is still there. The remaining tree is pretty big and blocks the trail just before marker 84 (this is the downhill before the last climb of the advanced loop).

There is also a big tree that got uprooted and took out the edge of the trail near marker 76. Easy to ride around... this section will be cleaned up on Sunday.

A few new spots where the trail got torn up... nothing that needs to be addressed right now, but they'll need to be fixed if/when they turn into wash outs. When the trail is damp and soft, it is very susceptible to getting this type of damage.

Some branches and sticks, and the trail was tacky overall.

[MikeyB]

Trail was great today! The tree at 84 was just cleared.

[soupboy]

It was in great condition this afternoon. I really like the berm action.

Hadn't ridden there in a while and got surprised coming around a couple corners. The one with the big cube of a rock in the center probably merits some kind of simple warning of pending doom!

[MikeyB]

Trail is in great condition, rode it yesterday.

[Shorty]

Murphy got almost an inch of rain (.8") last night and this morning.

The trail will likely be too wet to ride today.

If the sun comes out, the humidity drops, and the winds pick up... it MIGHT be rideable later this evening.

It looks like Saturday could be good... I'd recommend waiting until then.

Please allow trails to dry before use.

[MikeyB]

The trail was perfect today and very fast. That wind was blowing really hard all day and dried out the trail extremely fast.

[ryno lite]

Best I've seen it all year! Trail was fast and grippy!

[bakkeb]

Best I've seen it all year! Trail was fast and grippy!

Haven't been out there in a month or so. I had the trail to myself and I totally agree that it was perfect....as well as fast and grippy.:etard:

[jitterjepp]

Went out there for the first time ever today. I was totally digging the long trail.

[ryno lite]

The Murphy area has received over a half inch so far today, it's raining currently and should continue to rain today, so I would cancel any riding plans for Murphy today. Also, if we get a lot of rain, there should be no riding tomorrow. I rode yesterday and the trail was starting to need moisture again and the rain currently falling is perfect for the trail. The rain is a good thing, but we need to wait till this trail dries before we ride it again. Thanks!

[Shorty]

Murphy got about 1.2" of rain yesterday...

The trail will most likely be too wet to ride all of today.

If the sun comes out, the humidity drops, and the winds pick up... it MIGHT be rideable later this evening.
But I would guess since the temps will only be around 70, it'll need more time.

It looks like Thursday should be great... I'd recommend waiting until then.

Please allow trails to dry before use.

[Shorty]

Looks like Murphy got .13" of rain today, with the possibility of more on the way. Be sure and keep an eye on the weather if you have plans to ride in the next day or two... and please use good judgement. It'll probably take at least the first half of the day on Friday to dry out enough to ride, longer if we get more rain.

With the unsettled weather we're having, here's a quick reminder:

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[THUMP!]

Warm and windy today...anybody know the trail conditions?

[Shorty]

I'd guess by the amount of rain the area got, and the wind, temps and humidity levels, it would be good to go for a late afternoon ride.

If anyone makes it out for a ride later, post up the conditions.

And as usual... please allow trails to dry before use.

[setzep]

Was out there at ~6pm today. Trail was in awsome shape becides a few areas in the beginner loop and a spot around marker 79 (iirc).

[Shorty]

Trail was great today! Good to see all the riders out there!

[Pandl]

Trail was great today. Lots of riders. Even the TCBC had a bunch of riders there. Saw a rider with MORC socks, and another rider with a MORC jersey. Didn't geta chance to introduce myself. Saw Josh (WildKona) when I was leaving.

New trail is damp, but not muddy.

[John Sandberg]

Today the trail and park were sensational. It's that ever-so-brief period between summer and autumn. About 1/4 of the leaves are down, yet what remains is mostly green with some yellows mixed for good measure. The sumac is blood-red.

With so many leaves down, the sight lines for the trail are spectacular, allowing me to carry speed in areas I couldn't just a couple weeks ago.

This period is brief. I suspect the weather later this week will bring down more leaves.

[Shorty]

Murphy got 1/3" of rain this evening. The forecast calls for cloudy, cool conditions with the possibility of more rain on Tuesday.

With cooler, more "fall-like" temps on the way the trail will take more time to dry out...

As usual, please allow trails to dry before use.

The trail will most likely be too wet to ride all of Tuesday, but the forecast looks better later in the week.

[John Sandberg]

Sensational today.

[Shorty]

Sensational today.

I'll bet!! You hit the window of weather just right.

Perfect weather... until now. Storms coming in.

[setzep]

Was out there from ~ 5-7 tonight. The trail is taking a whole new shape with the leafs falling off the trees. Well.. the trail WAS in great shape but probably not so hot now. :(

[Shorty]

Murphy got about 1/4" of rain last night. The forecast calls for cloudy, cool conditions with the possibility of more rain today.

With cooler, more "fall-like" temps the trail will take more time to dry out...

As usual, please allow trails to dry before use.

The trail will likely be too wet to ride today, but if we don't get anymore rain... and the sun and wind help us out, it MIGHT be rideable this evening.

[Shorty]

The rain has started at Murphy...

:cryin:

[Danimal]

Hey Pete, do you forsee the trail being rideable tomorrow morning? I haven't ridden there before so I don't know the type of soil out there, how long does it take to dry?

[Shorty]

Hey Pete, do you forsee the trail being rideable tomorrow morning? I haven't ridden there before so I don't know the type of soil out there, how long does it take to dry?

Overall it dries about as quickly as the other local trails... I would guess it was rideable at the end of the day today (it didn't get much rain).

If we get more rain overnight it'll likely be too wet tomorrow (especially earlier in the day).

Otherwise, if there's no more rain overnight or during the day tomorrow, I'd predict that Sunday will be great.

The forecasts I've seen aren't looking good though...

[Fast1]

When we arrived today there were at least 10 vehicles in the lot with riders out riding... 9:30-10:00 AM

Trails were in very good condition then but..

there were about 6 of us that got caught 3/4 of the way around today when it started downpouring.. seemed that certain sections that got allot of wind dried fast.

To those that built/maintain the trail you deserve a big thanks for putting together such a fantastic place to ride.

[Shorty]

Murphy got 1/2" of rain early this morning. With the cooler, cloudy conditions the trail will take more time to dry out... it'll probably be too wet to ride all day today.

With the unsettled weather we're having, here's a reminder:

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[Shorty]

Murphy got a little over an inch of rain in the last day and a half (the last of the rain came early this morning).

It doesn't look like it will be especially windy or sunny today, so it is likely that the trail will be too wet to ride all of today and this evening.

This week isn't looking that great, weatherwise. At this point, Wednesday evening and Thursday are looking like they could be good.

Please Use Good Judgment, and Consider the Bigger Picture When Planning Your Rides.

Internet weather sites and this thread are both great resources when deciding to ride or not.

Under slick or greasy conditions, the trail is more susceptible to getting washed out and/or cupped...

This means more maintenance due to accelerated wear on the tread...

Since maintenance and dealing with water flow issues will always come before the fun stuff, planned features like more log rides, rock gardens, elevated ladders, jumps, and berms will get bumped down the list of projects.

[Shorty]

Currently raining at Murphy, with more on the way.

Trail will most likely be too wet to ride today and this evening.

[85911]

Do you think it will be rideable today, say around 4:30-5:00?
Joe

[Shorty]

Do you think it will be rideable today, say around 4:30-5:00?

I would guess it would be rideable by 4:30.

The area received about 1/2" of rain yesterday, which ended around 10pm last night. Today has been sunny, somewhat windy, and the humidity has dropped in the last 3 or 4 hours.

I hope it is rideable... but please be patient if the trail isn't ready. Allow trails to dry before use.

Post up the conditions when you get home.

[85911]

Thanks, but we decided that it may be to damp and are going to do a "rubber kneck" ride around the lakes instead. Hopefully it will stay dry till friday so I can take my new 29er out for its first trail ride!

[Shorty]

Hopefully it will stay dry till friday so I can take my new 29er out for its first trail ride!

Forecast for Friday isn't good - at this point it's looking really wet.

Thursday should be great.

Hope you (and everyone else) can work a Thursday ride into your schedule.

[Shorty]

A couple puddles in some low spots... otherwise Thursday was frickin' awesome!!

Hopefully the rain stays away, but it isn't looking good.

70 percent chance of rain tomorrow. :cryin:

[Shorty]

Murphy has already received over an inch of rain, and more is forecasted.

The trail will be too wet to ride today (Friday), and by the looks of the forecast could be too wet all of tomorrow (Saturday).

[Kingbozo]

OK-I know we had a drought all summer, and the lack of precipitation was causing problems with the trails-but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I am officially sick of the rain!!

[Shorty]

Murphy got even more rain on Friday... a total of 1.7 inches for the day!

The trail will most likely be too wet to ride Saturday.

If the sun comes out, and the winds pick up... it MIGHT be rideable for an evening ride.

Please allow trails to dry before use.

[Shorty]

Murphy got another .10" of rain this morning.

Even if it gets sunny and windy today, the trail will be too wet to ride all of today and this evening...
the ground has simply received too much moisture in the last 36 hours, and it is supposed to stay humid.

Hopefully it doesn't rain on Sunday.

[Shorty]

More sun, wind, and lower humidity than expected...

Trail should be firm enough to ride late afternoon/early evening.

[Shorty]

Rain has started at Murphy. Judging by the forecast, the trail will likely be too wet to ride on Monday.
Looks like it should clear up later in the week!

The weather is supposed to be more seasonable (lower temps), so the trail will not dry as quickly.

With the unsettled weather we're having, here's a reminder:

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[Shorty]

Murphy received a little over 1/2" of rain throughout the morning today.

If it stays nice the trail should be firm and dry later tomorrow (Tuesday).

Remember, with the cooler temps this time of year the trail takes longer to dry out.

[85911]

Any reason not to ride murphy today?

[Shorty]

Any reason not to ride murphy today?

Not that I know of... I'd expect the trail to be really nice.

[smklugherz]

Just got back from riding. The trail is in greate shape. There are a few puddles on the easy loop. I ran in to no mud or standing water on intermediate and expert loops, nice and tacky. The damp leaves make some of the corners a little slick! Have fun and be careful out there!

[85911]

Just got back from riding. The trail is in greate shape. There are a few puddles on the easy loop. I ran in to no mud or standing water on intermediate and expert loops, nice and tacky. The damp leaves make some of the corners a little slick! Have fun and be careful out there!

+1!

You guys are doing a great job of adding technical features and keeping the trail flowing! I like the way you added the rock to the log, and placement of a couple new rock drops, that I don't do, but sure the people who do will appreciate.

[calc]

Leafy with squirrel dodging everywhere. Great conditions.

[kidinthecorner]

Does anyone know if the trail got rained on this morning?

[Shorty]

Murphy got rain this morning, and more is on the way.

This week isn't looking good. With off and on rain, and temps in the 40s and 50s, the trail will take much longer to dry out. It will most likely take upwards of 36-48 hours of dry weather after a rain for the trail to be dry enough to ride.

:cryin:

Here's a link to a nearby weather reporting station:
http://weather.wcco.com/auto/wccoV2/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMNSAVAG1

[Shorty]

Murphy has been getting rain off and on for the last 24-36 hours. And it looks like it will be like that most of the week... it is likely that the trail will be too wet/soft the entire week. This weekend is looking like it might be great!!

A couple reminders...

With the cool, cloudy conditions the trail will take longer to dry out.

And as always...

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 24-36 hours after a significant rainfall (longer now with the lower temps).

Thanks!

[Shorty]

Murphy got another .11 of rain this morning, and more is forecasted.

By the looks of it, the trail will likely be too wet/soft to ride the entire week. This weekend could be good though!!

[Shorty]

Murphy has received about an inch of rain over the last 36 hours. It will probably be too wet to ride through Saturday. I'd guess it MIGHT be worth checking on the trail late afternoon on Saturday.

With the cool, cloudy conditions the trail will take longer to dry out.

Sunday is looking like it should be great!!

[Shorty]

The trail is still soft in a lot of sections, with a significant number of puddles.

Please allow trails to dry before use.

The trail MIGHT be dry enough to ride this evening.

Otherwise tomorrow should be great as long as it doesn't rain.

[gzerbe]

I know that nobody wants to post (the parking lot had a lot of cars in it) - I rode from 4-5:30 tonight and the trail was in very good shape. There are puddles on the beginner loop, a few "greasy" corners on the intermediate loop and a very dry almost tacky expert loop. I would definitely recommend riding it before the rain returns...

I cannot speak for the other trails but Murphy drains and drys out really well - I guess it pays to build in wetlands?

[Shorty]

I know that nobody wants to post (the parking lot had a lot of cars in it)...

No one should hesitate to post if almost all the trail was firm and riders weren't leaving tracks. Of course there will probably be a handful of puddles in some bad spots, but nearly all the trail should be firm (not soft or greasy) for it to be considered rideable.

If someone is afraid to post they were riding, it probably means they shouldn't have been.

Another reminder...

As the trailhead sign says, "Please allow trails to dry before use."

[Shorty]

I cannot speak for the other trails but Murphy drains and drys out really well...

That will change with time.

As the trail gets more use, the trail will get more cupped. As it gets more cupped, the more water it holds and the slower it dries. Most importantly, riding the trail when it is soft increases the rate at which this cupping occurs.

If the wear and tear exceeds the ability to keep it maintained, we will see more (and longer) closures.

Additionally, maintenance will always have priority, so increasing the rate of wear and tear on the trail slows down the development of trail features and other fun things...

...and trust me the list of proposed 'fun' projects is as good as it is long. :)

[Yammer]

So are we good to go today?

[Trevize1138]

Perfect.

Get yer butts out here before it rains again.

[I_Fall_Alot]

Very nice conditions. And the colors were beautiful.

I ran across the trail crew during my ride - thanks Murphy crew, for maintaining the trail. :D

[MikeyB]

Trail was great. Can't wait to extend the rock garden @ 63. :D

[Nita]

Rode on October 23rd, and the conditions were excellent. No wet spots, tacky throughout. The leaves were coming down, but not enough to obscure the trail and the open vistas make it spectacular towards the top. Not one tree down or branch out of place even with all that wind.

The new rocks before the log are awesome along with the new section of rocks after it. Thank you everybody who worked on this, its so cool!

[MikeyB]

Dead tree down around 72'ish with a nice lung popping limb. It might need a chainsaw to it.

[setzep]

What happened out there? Looks like a dozer went though a few areas.

[MikeyB]

What happened out there? Looks like a dozer went though a few areas.

Oak Wilt treatment area.

[Shorty]

The rain showers were scattered today, and unfortunately Murphy got rained on later this afternoon.

The trail was damp, soft and greasy this evening. Riders were leaving tracks throughout most of the trail. The trail will probably need a few hours of daylight/warmer temps before it is rideable tomorrow.

If you were planning a morning ride Saturday, you'll probably be better off at a trail that didn't get rain today.

Please allow trails to dry before use.

[Shorty]

Trail condition update from earlier today:

Trail was 80% tacky, 19% dry, and 1% slightly greasy. Trail was in great shape overall.

[MikeyB]

Went out around 2pm and it was perfect.

[Shorty]

The trail is AWESOME right now!!!

Get out and ride it... our days of (somewhat) warm weather are numbered.

[Shorty]

Tacky in a couple sections, but the rest of the trail is dry. Traction is sketchy in some of the corners that have a lot of leaves.

A note to all you weekend warriors... get out for a ride on Sunday.

The trail will be closed all next weekend for deer hunts (Friday, Saturday and Sunday).

[gmargolf]

So the trail is good to go Wed. and Thursday correct?????

[Shorty]

So the trail is good to go Wed. and Thursday correct?????

Yup, as long as the trail is dry.

[newp]

I rode Tuesday afternoon and the trail is in great shape right now. The wind has blown most of the leaves off. I've only riden this trail 3 times and it just keeps getting better. A big thanks to all that have put there time into it.:)

-Rob

[Shorty]

In case you didn't see the 'Trail Conditions' page, the Calendar, or the other thread...

Murphy-Hanrehan Park will be closed all day November 9th, 10th and 11th.

There will be deer hunts occurring on November 9th, 10th and 11th.

The entire park, including the mountain bike trail, will be closed all day to all uses (except hunting) on those days.

The park will close at sunset on the 8th, and re-open at 5am on the 12th.

[Shorty]

The trail received almost 1/5" of rain and sleet today.

Trail will likely be too wet for most all of Monday.

It MIGHT be dry enough later in the day if it gets warm and sunny on Monday. The weather forecast doesn't look very good this week, and the trail could easily be too wet until Thursday.

Be careful of the bridges if you are riding in the cold... the frost can make them slippery.

[Shorty]

The trail was dry in some spots and damp in others. Some areas were slick from the snow.

Studs are not necessary (they would significantly damage the trail at this point).

Nearly all of the bridges were wet and/or snow covered and slippery.

With below freezing nights and daytime temps above freezing, the trail conditions will be fluctuating between frozen and wet until the moisture comes out of the soil (which could take a day or two). The warmer it is, the more likely the trail will be too wet to ride.

As always... the trails are closed when they are wet.

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

Thanks!

[Disaster on Wheels]

I have not been out to Murphy since August. Great work trail crew!!! I love the changes you have made, especially the berms on that downhill that I would almost fly off of everytime.


There are some wet and muddy spots that might cause damage in the low lying areas. Most of the trail is in great shape and dry, but watch the wet spots. Great to see so many riders out today!

[ryno lite]

I have not been out to Murphy since August. Great work trail crew!!! I love the changes you have made, especially the berms on that downhill that I would almost fly off of everytime.


There are some wet and muddy spots that might cause damage in the low lying areas. Most of the trail is in great shape and dry, but watch the wet spots. Great to see so many riders out today!

The wet and muddy spots are most likely due to thawing areas of frost. The ground is freezing and these warm days thaw the frost. Cold weather is coming soon and these areas should become more solid. See Pete's advice on when to ride below:

Studs are not necessary (they would significantly damage the trail at this point).

Nearly all of the bridges were wet and/or snow covered and slippery.

With below freezing nights and daytime temps above freezing, the trail conditions will be fluctuating between frozen and wet until the moisture comes out of the soil (which could take a day or two). The warmer it is, the more likely the trail will be too wet to ride.

As always... the trails are closed when they are wet.

When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

Thanks!

[Pandl]

GREAT JOB trail crew!! New additions are wonderful. Trail was in mostly great condition, as Jodi stated. All bridges were dry.

[MrBatzloff]

Trail was absolutely beautiful today, mostly perfect with a few soggy spots where the frost is melting. These spots were quite gooey, requiring some ginger crossing, walking and maneuvering. Overall, a great ride earlier today. Enjoy.

[setzep]

Got off work early today so I drug the bike out to give the trail a whirl. I made it about 5'. Even the fatter 2.6" tires with low air wasn't enough :( Just sunk and dug. Maybe if the snow hardens up it will be rideable but not now... well, the pugs might have a shot.

[Shorty]

Thanks for the update Cam!

I was thinking of checking it out this week, but I'll go to Theo or Leb instead.

[ryno lite]

Sorry it didn't work, it looked very packed out there. Kind of like a snowmobile trail. I'm not a winter biker, so maybe I have no clue. I checked in a few places with my hands and tried to dig and it all seemed very solid.

[daveyp]

Rode Murphy FatBike today. +5F, sundogs, nice. Apparently snowshoers and deer are the most common winter benefactors of MORC's good work! First ~1.5 miles in to the narrow trick bridge is a veritable Pugsley Freeway many thanks to the snowshoers, no need for even really low psi. After the bridge/junction the snowshoers seem to have gone numerous routes except for the standard left turn up the main outer trail. The normally backwards way, bearing right after the trick bridge, is quite well packed though and even off camber stuff was completely rideable again thanks to the nice ledge put in by the big-shoers. Made it maybe half way and back-tracked due to dusk approaching and the trail mid-section gradually deteriating due to less traffic and high deer post-holing. Would think it should stay quite good at least into Sat. when mushiness might arrive. Very quiet and I did not see any big cat tracks.

[setzep]

Sorry it didn't work, it looked very packed out there. Kind of like a snowmobile trail. I'm not a winter biker, so maybe I have no clue. I checked in a few places with my hands and tried to dig and it all seemed very solid.


The exit of the trail seemed to be rideable but not the entrance. I think it was a tad too warm that day to ride. Maybe after a thaw/freeze day it will be better? i still got a little bit of a workout going up and down the road though :)

[ryno lite]

The exit of the trail seemed to be rideable but not the entrance. I think it was a tad too warm that day to ride. Maybe after a thaw/freeze day it will be better? i still got a little bit of a workout going up and down the road though :)

I only saw various stretches. I didn't see the entrance at all. I made most of my evaluation on the intermediate loop. I figured if they were getting all the way back to the intermediate loop, the beginner loop must be fine. Looks to be a pugsly trail right now. Things will change this weekend. We'll see then. May be needing studs!

[Shorty]

With the warmer temps being forecasted this week, the (somewhat) packed snow surface on the trail is susceptible to getting ruts...

...so as Bob said in another thread...

"If it doesn't get rutted up, then the next cold snap might be excellent for skinny tires and studs and fast riding. If we end up with frozen ruts, it could suck."

[dave t]

Any update on the conditions after the melting and refreezing?

[Shorty]

If anyone has been out there recently, please post up.

I'd guess Murphy is in similar (but less packed) condition as Leb.

[Tower]

Rumor has it a local rider says it's ridable via Pug... He goes by the call sign the Red Devil...

I thought Murphy was closed to bikes once significant snow hit? If it's open and ridable for the 4" crowd that'll be epic...

Gotta say thanks again to the Murphy trail crew for just doing what you guys do...

If anyone has been out there recently, please post up.

I'd guess Murphy is in similar (but less packed) condition as Leb.

[ryno lite]

It's open in the winter, just hasn't seen the traffic yet.

[Trevize1138]

I'm gonna have to get out there with the BC skis and help in the packing effort. :banana:

[daveyp]

Rode today the 17th. Non-Pugsley fine. The field trail leading in has been post-holed a bit by warmwalkers, bumpy but rideable. Once you hit the woods its suprisingly great with a wide firm non-icy base, a few zillion small deer holes, but not unlike Leb or Hillside right now. Loop after skinny trick bridge still is packed/ridden best backwards.

[Tower]

Set fresh tracks on the inner loop. 99% ridable with the 4" tred.

A pug rally and a little shoe stomping could get the inner loop dialed in very quickly. All obsticles are ridable.

Thanks to all the vermin who dialed in much of the track.

Ricoh, we need a Murphy ho-down soon.

[setzep]

Rode the inner loop yesterday. Pretty good shape but not as good as Leb.

[Tower]

When you say inner loop, I'm assuming your referring to the intermediate loop... Yeah, that is packed.

I was referring to the Advanced Loop... By my account nobody has ridden the full Advanced Loop since the first big snow of the season... Portions have been packed from shoeing and vermin, but no bikes. A sole pug track now marks the line.

I'll be back out there again next weekend, hopefully my sisters take the bait...

Rode the inner loop yesterday. Pretty good shape but not as good as Leb.

[setzep]

When you say inner loop, I'm assuming your referring to the intermediate loop... Yeah, that is packed.

I was referring to the Advanced Loop... By my account nobody has ridden the full Advanced Loop since the first big snow of the season... Portions have been packed from shoeing and vermin, but no bikes. A sole pug track now marks the line.

I'll be back out there again next weekend, hopefully my sisters take the bait...

Yeah, intermediate loop.

[rihaha]

The beginner loop kinda sucks. Would be nice to get that in shape so it would be easier to get to the rest of the trail. Little bumpy from foot traffic and animals but was a good ride.

[Tower]

Hey Pete,

Beg, borrow, buy, or heist a Pug and get out there and ride your creation... With a little shoe packing on the ups and switches it's Pug paradise... All obsticles are ridable by pug...

Just a reminder that Murphy closes at sunset.

Scott - were you referring to Leb?

[Shorty]

The Murphy-Hanrehan mountain bike trail has been closed due to unsafe conditions.

This thread will be updated as soon as Three Rivers notifies me that the trail has re-opened.

[MisterClaw]

unsafe conditions
Ice? More mountain lions?

[Crash]

Ice? More mountain lions?

I was wondering the same thing. Is the entire park closed?

[Shorty]

Unsafe conditions due to ice.
(the dangerously cold temps aren't helping)

Both the XC ski and mountain bike trails are closed, and the parking lot gate is locked.

I'm not sure about any other trails/facilities. I'd check the Three Rivers website or call their info number regarding the rest of the park.

[Shorty]

The Murphy-Hanrehan singletrack trail has re-opened. It had been closed due to unsafe conditions (ice).

With the recent snows it shouldn't be as slick.

Use caution as the trail has been closed for almost 2 weeks, and it will still be icy in spots.

[bigpeddler]

The trail is in pretty rough shape - deep snow in the open areas. Just need some snow shoers or pugs out there to do some trail packing. It looks like there was one pugs riders out there. I tried the expert loop, but it was untouched and almost impossible to ride with my skinny tires (2.1)

[Shorty]

Thanks for the update Joel!

Was all the ice covered with snow, or were there icy spots?

[bigpeddler]

I had studded tires so I can't say as if I would have even noticed the ice. But it was pretty well covered.

Some of the wooded areas were pretty good.

[Tower]

Murphy is prime for the 4" fats!!!

Did 2 laps of the advanced loop (calling it "MM" so not to be confused with Leb XX).

Prepped it on Sat with 2 sets of snowshoe stomps. All obsticles ridable, biggest threat is the snow drifts in the open prairies.

Beginner loop is down to an out and back from the intermediate loop (calling that one "M").

Oh yeah, 2"ers need not apply, you wont get much past the MM qualifier...

All you Pug lovers get to Murphy...

RCP, time for another 4 hour tour...

[Tower]

Forgot to mention and none of my sisters posted either...

Last Saturday 6 LCR/ Ricoh Pugs put tracks on MM (advanced trail)... First round forward and the second round was classic Ricoh (packed backwards)...

Trail is dialed for the Pug... All others, turn back at the MM qualifer, you wont get far beyond it without rutting or walking...

J240, Ricoh will never forget what you skipped on the first round...

[TowersChic]

Trail is dialed. 2 MM laps and it's packed perfect for puggin...

Was surprised to see a 4" and two 2" tracks for a circle of MM. Was about to give them the Ricoh point but had to retract. The line don't lie, and skipping the technical is a loss of all points in the world of Ricoh...

Jimmay knows about skipping the technical... Right Jimmay.

[Shorty]

Due to the spring thaw, Three Rivers has closed the Murphy-Hanrehan singletrack trail. MORC will be working with Three Rivers to inspect the trail, and it will re-open as soon as possible.

Please stay off the trail until it has been officially re-opened. The trail should re-open around mid-April.

The parking lot, along with both the enter/exit trails at the trailhead have been gated and signed.

Closure of the trail is obvious.

Use of the trail, even by MORC members "just checking on the trail" will be in violation of Park District ordinance. It has been recommended that the Park Police ticket anyone on the trail during a closure.

Any inspections must be coordinated and approved by Three Rivers supervisors.

During the spring thaw the trail is especially soft and can be very easily rutted. The trail is designed to allow water to run across the trail. Ruts create a cupped trail surface that traps the water on the trail, causing the water to run down the trail which significantly increases erosion. Cupped and rutted trails will also take longer to dry out after a rain.

Responsible trail use is essential to the design of the new trail. The old Murphy trail was closed due to erosion problems... please do your part in ensuring that it doesn't happen again.

http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/542/medium/Murphy_Closed_1.JPG http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/542/medium/Murphy_Closed_4.JPG

http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/542/medium/Murphy_Closed_8.JPG http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/542/medium/Murphy_Closed_6.JPG

[Shorty]

Murphy is now open!

Three Rivers opened the trail this afternoon. Go Ride!!!

The trail should be clear, but as always... do your best to expect the unexpected.

It is likely there will be sections that have some leaves and/or small branches on the trail.

If you do a lap, be sure and update this thread and the Trail Conditions page. Thanks!!

[Homegrown]

Trail was in pretty good shape...other then the double back section in 85 right before the step-up step-down transition bridge - it was very soupy. Might take a more then a couple days to dry there, because it is a natural run off.

[bigpeddler]

What Homegrown said...the trails was fast and really tacky. :banana:

[Mike P]

Trail was in pretty good shape...other then the double back section in 85 right before the step-up step-down transition bridge - it was very soupy. Might take a more then a couple days to dry there, because it is a natural run off.

Trail was perfect today except for the above mentioned area, still a mud hole. Not much room to ride around(big no, no):nono:, so it shouldn't get to wide and out of control there I hope. It didn't look too deep until I hit it. SPLASH!!!! mud covered. I think we need a "no wake" sign there;)

[setzep]

Trail was great. Bugs sucked already.

[rihaha]

I thought the trail was great too. Nats are getting bad already. In the expert loop at the end where the dip is, there is mud and then about 10 ft from the qualifier. The holes are getting pretty deep from riders. Will probably need some attention.

[Mike P]

Saundra, looks like you just beat the rain. It's raining in Prior Lake.

[Shorty]

Currently raining at Murphy.

Trail will likely be too wet to ride until Thursday... possibly late on Wednesday.

A Reminder About When To Ride, And When Not To...

- Trails should not be used during wet weather, or when the trail is soft or muddy.

- Trails are open if the trail is firm and the surface will not be disturbed by foot or bike travel.

- PLEASE be patient if the trail isn't ready.

- Riding wet trails damages the trail by creating ruts that increase erosion.

- Trails are typically too wet to ride for 18-24 hours after a significant rainfall.

Thanks!

[setzep]

Saundra, looks like you just beat the rain. It's raining in Prior Lake.

Hey Mike, we rode last night ~6:30. Were the bugs bad when you rode earlier in the day?

[Mike P]

I didn't notice any bugs. God knows I would have eaten a ton of them the way I was gasping for air.

I'm sure the bugs will get worse with this rain though.

[lostboy]

Anyone have any updates? I see Leb is open and I would like to hit Murphy tonight if its good to roll.

[bigpeddler]

Any updates?

*edit, just saw Kurtis' question