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Aberrix
03-13-2007, 08:49 AM
So after my last thread (http://www.morcmtb.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20305) I decided against sand blasting, its just a little too cost prohibitive for this project. If this were a 300-500 dollar frame then yeah I would totally jump on it. However, as stated before I only bought this frame for $125 and really more or less plan on abusing it, beating it up and just testing the waters to see how much more I like the freestyle geometry of it. So I don't want to invest a lot of cash into it at the moment.

So, I went to Menards and bought a can of Bix 'Tough Stuff' paint stripper, a can of flat green 'camoflauge' spray paint, a box of disposable latex gloves, a wire brush and a 89 cent paint brush... my grand total was $17.

Here was the frame before hand, as you can see it was painted blue right on top of the stock paint job (essential over two coats of paint on the frame).
http://www.leveleight.org/gallery/3409-1/32_1.JPG
http://www.leveleight.org/gallery/3412-1/18_1.JPG

So I made a rig in my garage consisting of electrical tape and a coat hanger to hang the frame from the headtube. I used the cheap (disposable) paint brush to apply a very thick coat of the paint stripper, it was very think, think paper mache. You could litterally hear this stuff 'crackling' on the frame, very powerful stuff.

WARNING: This stuff is very nasty, I was wearing a short sleeve shirt and after using the wire brush and having just a couple small flakes of the paint come off and onto my arms it started burning within 1-2 mintues. I had to rush inside and wash it off (4 times, because I refused to put on a long shirt, I am a man... and dumb sometimes.) Be very careful when using this stuff.

http://www.leveleight.org/gallery/6110-1/DSC02111.JPG
http://www.leveleight.org/gallery/6116-1/DSC02113.JPG
(as you can see, some of the paint litterally just 'melted' off on its own.)

I let the first think coat sit for 30 minutes and then started to use the wire brush to get the paint off. I'd say on the first go I got nearly 85-90% of it all off. I applied a second coat as a couple areas just didn't want to give up so easily, I applied the second coat very heavily on the problem areas. I let it sit for maybe 5 minutes or so and used a combination of the paint brush and the wire brush to remove the rest. Here is what it looked like after a second coat of paint stripper.

http://www.leveleight.org/gallery/6122-1/DSC02115.JPG

After I took it into my basement and with a wet rag wipped it down and then dried it with paper towels, this removed a tiny bit more as well. Overall after a couple hours of work I'd say I got 95% of the paint removed. I hope to do yet another coat targeting the specific areas. Here is what it looked like when I finished last night.

http://www.leveleight.org/gallery/6128-1/DSC02117.JPG
http://www.leveleight.org/gallery/6131-1/DSC02118.JPG

I'll post more pics as the project progresses.

steef
03-13-2007, 08:55 AM
It reminds me of when I stripped my old PK Ripper.

I just polished the aluminum and didn't bother painting it again.

I've always had a thing for shiny things, though. :D

Aberrix
03-13-2007, 08:58 AM
It reminds me of when I stripped my old PK Ripper.

I just polished the aluminum and didn't bother painting it again.

I've always had a thing for shiny things, though. :D

I thought about it, as it looked pretty good as-is. But I dont want to be riding some urban and blind people. :P Plus I've always had a thing for the 'stealthy' look, hence the flat green paint.

Aberrix
03-14-2007, 09:44 AM
does anyone know if I need to or should use a primer before I begin painting?

danger!
03-14-2007, 09:48 AM
does anyone know if I need to or should use a primer before I begin painting?

I would, simply beacuse you've taken the time to strip it down, and you might as well do it right. Go to an auto parts supply and get self-etching primer in a spray bomb can. I've used Napa stuff, and it has worked out well.

If you don't prime, the finish may be very fragile, and suceptible to chipping very easily.

Wear a respirator when painting! :D

Magic
03-14-2007, 10:23 AM
I would, simply beacuse you've taken the time to strip it down, and you might as well do it right. Go to an auto parts supply and get self-etching primer in a spray bomb can. I've used Napa stuff, and it has worked out well.

If you don't prime, the finish may be very fragile, and suceptible to chipping very easily.

Wear a respirator when painting! :D

I agree, also the primer helps with adhesion. It will help the paint stick to the frame better and also help with the final color of the paint.

dvo1
03-14-2007, 10:32 AM
Leave is silver scotchbrite pad it to make it flat industrial looking.

After all paint adds weight.:D

crux
03-14-2007, 11:32 AM
Leave is silver scotchbrite pad it to make it flat industrial looking.

After all paint adds weight.:D

Should of know your a weight weenie.;)

Actually I agree with Dan. Take a fine scotchbrite pad to it and it will have a nice brushed look to it.

I have both a shot peened and brushed frame and the brushed version has a much deeper tone to it, should age well too.

TrailSquirell
03-14-2007, 08:12 PM
what stripper did you use? i've been planning on doing this for so long yet am still looking at materials to use.

Aberrix
03-20-2007, 01:39 PM
I used 'Bix: Tough Stuff' stripper.

I picked up a can of primer... but I am having second thoughts on the color. I am thinking of maybe pink or baby blue... any thoughts?

steef
03-20-2007, 02:58 PM
Pink. Pink. Pink.

danger!
03-20-2007, 03:31 PM
Flat pink. All the way. With chocolate brown rims.

taylor p.
03-20-2007, 06:25 PM
I used 'Bix: Tough Stuff' stripper.

I picked up a can of primer... but I am having second thoughts on the color. I am thinking of maybe pink or baby blue... any thoughts?
i would go with the green and maybe some gold? but dont do pink!! or baby blue

Aberrix
03-22-2007, 06:59 AM
here we go all ready for paint;
http://www.leveleight.org/gallery/6174-1/DSC02124.JPG

and here we go after the primer;
http://www.leveleight.org/gallery/6177-1/DSC02125.JPG

still on the fence about the final color... the paint I currently have is like a deep forest green (flat). I'd rather have a more olive green if I go that route... so we'll see...

berrywise
03-22-2007, 08:03 AM
I personally think you can rarely go wrong with a nice black and a clear coat.

Here are some photos for inspiration:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=184594&page=1

SpecHR55
03-22-2007, 07:12 PM
I personally think you can rarely go wrong with a nice black and a clear coat.

Here are some photos for inspiration:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=184594&page=1

That white Sinister DNA is sick! Along with the black Azonic Steelhead...i think? The gusseting looks familiar to a Steelhead.

Aberrix
03-23-2007, 07:13 AM
I've decided on a color...

:eyeroll:

taylor p.
03-23-2007, 07:46 AM
and thatcolor would be?

Aberrix
03-23-2007, 09:02 AM
and thatcolor would be?

nothing that has been discussed yet...

you'll have to wait for tomorrow for pics (and to find out the final color)

Aberrix
03-28-2007, 02:11 PM
I became terribly demotivated with this project Moday. The paint is done and although I really enjoy the color I do not enjoy the quality of my paint job. I nearly spent the amount of $ it would have cost to just sandblast and powder coat it... and I realized I highly over paid for the frame.

My adventure started when I started to swap the front fork. I was terribly afraid to remove the headset cups so I went to Eriks to buy a new headset, he gave me a threaded headset which I didnt realize until after I had in the bottom cup. I used this frustration to remove the new cups and also the old cups and then put them into the new frame. hey, atleast I saved the money right?

I ended up returning the new headset only to have to purchase a tool to remove the crank arms. I still ended up getting money back though. so I removed the cranks and then realized I needed yet another tool to remove the BB. *sigh* I also realized at this point I am going to have to re-do all the brake/deraileur cables... *sigh*

I saw a post up in the classifieds for a .243 frame, sealed headset and crankset... for nearly what I have into this project now... severly, severly dissapointing. I should have held out for that...

I like the new paintjob, it looks pretty cool with everything together (so far). Although I noticed its (the p1 frame) nearly exactly the same as my wife's hardrock (size S), after measuring I did find out that atleast I had a little over an 1" longer wheelbase... I went to Eriks again at lunch today and picked up the needed tool to remove the BB and swap it over. I still have to do all the new brake/derailuer cables as well as figure out how to remove the chain (i dont see a master link, and I really dont want to have to go buy another tool for that) *sigh* suffice to say, I am pretty dissapointed with this project, not nearly what I thought it was going to be... live and learn I guess...

/rant