Salem Hills Night Ride - 12/19 @ 7:00pm

[gopherhockey]

Lets try this again. The weather wasn't on our side last week, so hopefully we can get our ride in this week.

Post up if you can make it.

[bigwheel]

I'm in. Hopefully, it will stay frozen enough to ride.

[Ish]

I'll be there with Guinness in hand :D


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[gopherhockey]

I'll be there with Guinness in hand :D


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Brilliant!

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[bigwheel]

I'll be there with Guinness in hand :D

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Even though it tastes like Ovaltine, and is flat with artificial carbonation and maybe food coloring, Technically, it is still beer. So, I take back the bad stuff I said about it on Thursday. Still, forgive me for being rude if I BmyOB.

[ibismojo2001]

I'll be there.

[bakkeb]

I will probably be there. It all depends on how cold it is. I was just there today and the trail was in excellent condition. Super fast.:etard:

[crux]

I'm in. Want/need to ride.

[Kayakoholic]

Nita and I are in. I've never done Salem at night and she's never been there. We're in.

[bobbkr]

I was planning on riding tonight, but I think it's going to be too soft with temps getting up to 40. A friend rode Salem on Saturday but quit when he saw he was leaving ruts.

[gopherhockey]

I was planning on riding tonight, but I think it's going to be too soft with temps getting up to 40. A friend rode Salem on Saturday but quit when he saw he was leaving ruts.

We're going to watch the weather and see what happens. This one might be too difficult to call, so we might end up going there with the idea of not riding if its at all wet. We'll just bring extra refreshments... ;)

[bigwheel]

If James or someone says it's too wet to ride or it is marked closed, we will cancel.

Otherwise, we will proceed gingerly and check out the trail. If the trail turns out to be soft, we will head back to the lot where we will have extra "emergency" beers.

Edit: JL types faster than me. I am hopeful that it has dried significantly since Saturday. We'll see.
BTW, Bob, tell your friend thanks for doing the right thing.

[Magic]

I'll be there if we can ride. Need to get my fix before vaca. See you all tonight and that means you too Ishmann, no excuses tonight.:crazy2:

[Ish]

See you all tonight and that means you too Ishmann, no excuses tonight.:crazy2:

Bring it :D
If we can't ride, you can lead a group over to the KOD ;)

[Magic]

Bring it :D
If we can't ride, you can lead a group over to the KOD ;)

If I can't ride, I'll go play hockey. Like I need another night of hockey!:eyeroll:

[Kayakoholic]

Bring it :D
If we can't ride, you can lead a group over to the KOD ;)

King of Diamonds?! Nita and I may have to bail on the one!

[tedsti]

Play?? I thought you just stood in front of the net.

If I can't ride, I'll go play hockey. Like I need another night of hockey!:eyeroll:

[Magic]

Play?? I thought you just stood in front of the net.

I do just that. But to make it sound good, I tell people I play goalie instead of just saying I stand around.;)

[Magic]

King of Diamonds?! Nita and I may have to bail on the one!

I'm with the ladies on this one, if I'm going to spend money on a women, I'd get my wife a X-mas gift then.:)

[Ish]

I'm with the ladies on this one, if I'm going to spend money on a women, I'd get my wife a X-mas gift then.:)

I'm not sure I'd recommend taking her to KOD as a christmas gift......

maybe a purse or something would be more appropriate;)

[Kayakoholic]

I don't know, Craig. A purse says, "I give up. I'm completely out of ideas."

[Ish]

I don't know, Craig. A purse says, "I give up. I'm completely out of ideas."

yep, that's me .

After 17 years, I have lost the ability to be creative.

[Kayakoholic]

yep, that's me .

After 17 years, I have lost the ability to be creative.

Then if you're going to get her a purse, make sure it's at least a Kate Spade, ok? The feathery one with the white puffy decorations. Very popular right now.

[Magic]

I'm not sure I'd recommend taking her to KOD as a christmas gift......

maybe a purse or something would be more appropriate;)

If I ever bought a purse for my wife, she would take me in to get my head examined. So I'll just stick with getting her nothing.

[gopherhockey]

King of Diamonds?! Nita and I may have to bail on the one!

Don't give me that... I know Nita, she would enjoy it as much as the guys would... or more perhaps. :p

yep, that's me .

After 17 years, I have lost the ability to be creative.

He lost his taste too... but I'm slowly trying to help him get that back. Wouldn't want his wife to get a purse and a 6-pack of Coors for Christmas now would we! ;)

On the other hand I may be giving handmade jewelry created from this sudden surge of bottle caps I keep finding in the back of my car. :etard:

[Ish]

He lost his taste too... but I'm slowly trying to help him get that back. Wouldn't want his wife to get a purse and a 6-pack of Coors for Christmas now would we! ;)

Hey now! Should we take a poll on whether folks think guinness is really beer? :p

On the other hand I may be giving handmade jewelry created from this sudden surge of bottle caps I keep finding in the back of my car. :etard:

Ha. That reminds me, I need to clean out the back of my truck.

Then if you're going to get her a purse, make sure it's at least a Kate Spade, ok? The feathery one with the white puffy decorations. Very popular right now.

Yea - I was at Nordstrom last Thursday and saw this Kate Spade that looked like a beach bag for like $300. You have to be kidding me...
Walmart had much better pricing :laugh:

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[SuperClydesdale]

Is this ride open to fat, slow, have-hardly-ridden-at-all-this-year riders?

[Magic]

Is this ride open to fat, slow, have-hardly-ridden-at-all-this-year riders?

Yes Mark, come on out and ride or drink with us.

[gopherhockey]

Hey now! Should we take a poll on whether folks think guinness is really beer? :p

If we're going by the Reinheitsgebot (German Purity Law) adopted in 1516, it is... so people who feel otherwise would just be embarassing themselves.

But this is not for the group ride forum... so I digress... ;)

Is this ride open to fat, slow, have-hardly-ridden-at-all-this-year riders?

Absolutely it is...

[KleinCrazy]

Just so everyone remembers, after ride refreshments at Salem are of the Overone can have variety, just as it says on the sign in the parking lot.

We would not want something to happen that might reflect poorly on MORC.

Thanks
James

P.S. If I get things done tonight I might be able to show up, if not, somebody give me a call when your done and I'll show up with a keg of homemade rootbeer.

[SPR]

I'm out, with the temps this high I would guess this trail will be questionable to ride. :cryin:
Looks like Pugsley weather Wed-Thrs.:D

[SuperClydesdale]

Yes Mark, come on out and ride or drink with us.

Sweet... college graduation ceremony or ride? college graduation ceremony or ride? college graduation ceremony or ride?

See you at 7.

[gopherhockey]

I'm out, with the temps this high I would guess this trail will be questionable to ride. :cryin:
Looks like Pugsley weather Wed-Thrs.:D

We will check the trail carefully before riding. My guess is that we'll be ok. It got warm, but it was fairly cold last night and the last couple of days. The hourly forecast appears to have us around freezing by the time we would ride.

Its one of those gambles I guess... I'm won't feel bad just hopping around the parking lot and having a root beer.

[Nita]

Don't give me that... I know Nita, she would enjoy it as much as the guys would... or more perhaps. :p


I am going to sound a bit Iowan here, but what is the KOD?

[Magic]

I am going to sound a bit Iowan here, but what is the KOD?

A male entertainment joint. Or a place where the farmers go to get away from the livestock.

[bigwheel]

I plan to be there, even if we only do a few laps around the parking lot. If the trail looks damnp, we stay off. (Note: I just invented the word damnp.)

James, I hope you can make it tonight. If we don't ride, maybe we can walk over and scope out the skills park area.

[Ish]

I am going to sound a bit Iowan here,

Hey now, let's be careful.;)

[Kayakoholic]

I am going to sound a bit Iowan here, but what is the KOD?

It's a seedy strip club that is totally nude. So nude, it's BYOB.

[bakkeb]

It's a seedy strip club that is totally nude. So nude, it's BYOB.


I don't think its BYOB anymore. That was back in the day when they had splash guards and the dancers were second rate. They have greatly improved the inside of that place and the dancers. Better than Sheik's for sure and it won't cost a third as much for the night.

Anyways, I won't be there tonight cause I decided it was too beautiful out to go at night. The trail will be fine. I've gone the last 2 days and its tacky in the usual places. My tread left an imprint but no valley. Their are some ruts from the weekend and some really bad mtn bikers who can't keep there ride on the trail. Other than that I can't see why you couldn't ride it tonight. Have fun!:etard:

[ibismojo2001]

Anyone have a shock pump I can borrow tonight??? Thanks:D

[gopherhockey]

Anyone have a shock pump I can borrow tonight??? Thanks:D

I do..

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[bigwheel]

Anyone have a shock pump I can borrow tonight??? Thanks:D

I have one in my van.

[ibismojo2001]

I have one in my van.


Thanks guys See you then

[bigwheel]

Excellent ride tonight. Good seeing the ladies. Next time you lead, and the rest of us will see that you don't get lost.

Roger, you missed it. The trail was dry and rock hard. Almost dusty in spots.

Mark, congratulations on your graduation.

[Kayakoholic]

Oh yeah. Great ride. :eyeroll:

You left me alone! In the woods! In the dark! I was completely lost and disoriented! I heard dogs barking and there were wolves after me!

I could see a snake of bike lights slithering across the expanse, that is the abyss of Salem Hills at night, but I couldn't find the right trail to connect with the safety of the group. I don't even know how I got separated from the pack, but so did Nita because she turned around to go look for me! And then she was lost and riding alone!

Never been so happy to see a Berryweise in my life.

[ibismojo2001]

Indeed I felt like I was 90 yrs old with lead legs after the second lap. Too much work and not enough ridin'

Thanks for the very berry Berryweiss last night Marie. It went down like H2O.

Happy holidays everyone:D

[SPR]

Excellent ride tonight. Good seeing the ladies. Next time you lead, and the rest of us will see that you don't get lost.

Roger, you missed it. The trail was dry and rock hard. Almost dusty in spots.

Mark, congratulations on your graduation.

I'm bummed :hit:
I did find solace in watching my son play his first high school basketball game, all of 30 seconds. And then watch as Kennedy beat cross town rival 3rd rank Jefferson. :banana:
Ah but I digress this is a biking fourm not basketball...hope to ride Thursday.

[Nita]

Oh yeah. Great ride. :eyeroll:

You left me alone! In the woods! In the dark! I was completely lost and disoriented! I heard dogs barking and there were wolves after me!

I could see a snake of bike lights slithering across the expanse, that is the abyss of Salem Hills at night, but I couldn't find the right trail to connect with the safety of the group. I don't even know how I got separated from the pack, but so did Nita because she turned around to go look for me! And then she was lost and riding alone!

Never been so happy to see a Berryweise in my life.


All I could think about was the Blair Witch Project again....I heard you behind me, everything was cool and then when I turned around you were gone! Talk about creepy, I don't know who I was behind, but I figured you sure weren't behind me or anywhere to be seen, not even your lights! Oh yeah great, I'm backtracking into those woods whispering to myself: "there are no witches, its all not true..." What a pansy I am.

BUT...that trail is GREAT to ride at night, at least we did get in one full lap. Bob, if the women lead, or should I say if I do, you know we are talking full-on leisure, stargazing and singing caroles? You guys would be very bored, probably all talking on your cell phones and text messaging each other on who's idea was this!

[Kayakoholic]

I was scared last night, Nita. So very scared! I heard dogs barking!

[KleinCrazy]

Just to up the scary meeter a little more....

Those were probably the coyotes that call Salem Hills home.

[Kayakoholic]

Just to up the scary meeter a little more....

Those were probably the coyotes that call Salem Hills home.

I heard wolves, too.

[manual63]

Uh....probably not a good idea to leave people hanging alone at night on the trails. If I was there, I would have made sure the group was all together.....that's all I am sayin'

[gopherhockey]

Uh....probably not a good idea to leave people hanging alone at night on the trails. If I was there, I would have made sure the group was all together.....that's all I am sayin'

We have a strict group ride buddy system... it apparently broke down at some point.

We do stop regulary to re-group. This was when we noticed the breakdown in the buddy system. It can happen so quickly...

We were about to send out a search and rescue squad, but she ended up showing up about 2 minutes later... just before the wolves, rabid dogs and aliens showed up.

CNN was notified shortly after.

[bigwheel]

Incident report: We were out on our regularly scheduled ride, when we found the two women out wandering aimlessly in the vast forest of Salem Hills. We graciously brought them into our group, and treated them as our own. However, they somehow got lost again, but made their way back to the parking lot where they were treated for dehydration.

Fortunately, we always end our rides with a reverse-sweep, then a double-reverse sweep of the entire trail. This is done purely for safety reasons. So, the likelihood of anyone spending the night with the cyotes is small.

[Kayakoholic]

Yeah, but Nita got lost too! Noboby ever found her! She was searching frantically for me, calling my name, I was calling her name, no response, and than the wolves started chasing me, the aliens landed and threatened to beam me up to their ship, but thankfully, I ride a Specialized Stumpjumper. They couldn't catch me.

[Kayakoholic]

Incident report: We were out on our regularly scheduled ride, when we found the two women out wandering aimlessly in the vast forest of Salem Hills. We graciously brought them into our group, and treated them as our own. However, they somehow got lost again, but made their way back to the parking lot where they were treated for dehydration.

Fortunately, we always end our rides with a reverse-sweep, then a double-reverse sweep of the entire trail. This is done purely for safety reasons. So, the likelihood of anyone spending the night with the cyotes is small.

Actually, Bob, there were 3 of us. We lost Maura too.

[Kayakoholic]

We were about to send out a search and rescue squad, but she ended up showing up about 2 minutes later... just before the wolves, rabid dogs and aliens showed up.

CNN was notified shortly after.

Dude. It's wasn't 2 minutes! It was 30 minutes!

[manual63]

but thankfully, I ride a Specialized Stumpjumper. They couldn't catch me.

:alien::alien::alien::alien:

It must have had gears.....:p:)

[gopherhockey]

We're just not ready for trails longer than 7-10 miles... and the buddy system is going to have to be completely re-tooled. :confused: ;)

[Magic]

Nice ride last night all. Also nice to finally meet you Marie, we would have found you at some point so don't worry. Next time I'll have some warm boots for you to wear for the social hour after the ride. And Ted will have to bring the heat.

[ryno lite]

That's where you need a slow rider like myself to ride sweep. I'm not sure what happened yesterday. Once the terror of the dogs, coyotes, wolves, and the boogey man set in, confusion reigned and the buddy system broke down rapidly!

[Magic]

We're just not ready for trails longer than 7-10 miles... and the buddy system is going to have to be completely re-tooled. :confused: ;)

Nita was her buddy partner, so take it for what it 's worth. I think Nita was just thinking of hanging with the group, warmth in numbers is what I heard her mumble.;)

[Kayakoholic]

:alien::alien::alien::alien:

It must have had gears.....:p:)

It did! Eighteen of them! And they have fangs.

Seriously, everyone. I'm fine! I'm just being a drama queen.

[tedsti]

I am going to have to point out that all the women seem to have gotten lost. Were they too embarrassed to stop and ask for directions? Was it an omen that 2/3s of them got lost just getting to the trail? Maybe if they had arrived at the ride on time and attended the pre-ride, get your buddy meeting, this could have all been avoided. I just could not let this go unnoticed.

[Kayakoholic]

Were they too embarrassed to stop and ask for directions?

How could I have asked for directions? There was nobody to ask!

[crux]

We're just not ready for trails longer than 7-10 miles... and the buddy system is going to have to be completely re-tooled. :confused: ;)

We were supposed to be using the buddy system? Thought that they were chasing us.

Did not think that it was possible to get lost on a MOCR trail. Just keep riding and you will eventually recognize that you have been there before.

[Magic]

How could I have asked for directions? There was nobody to ask!

I'm sure the coyotes would have taken you in and fed you and keep you warm. They like nice women like you.

[bigwheel]

Actually, Bob, there were 3 of us. We lost Maura too.

Maura was not lost. She knows the trail like the back of her arm. If you cannot find Maura, you need to look from within or consult your buddy "Miss Direction".

[Ish]

WOW!

Forget the beer, we need to bring wine [whine] next time:D

[Kayakoholic]

You're a funny guy, Craig. :p

[gopherhockey]

How could I have asked for directions? There was nobody to ask!

If this were Leb a few people would be screaming at me to improve the signage... :cool:

I won't do that here, although I do think in general all our trails could be reviewed in this respect and made clearer. Honestly I've ridden Salem a couple dozen times and I still take the wrong trail here and there.

No ~5-10 mile trail should be something you can get lost on.

[Ish]

If this were Leb a few people would be screaming at me to improve the signage... :cool:

I won't do that here, although I do think in general all our trails could be reviewed in this respect and made clearer. Honestly I've ridden Salem a couple dozen times and I still take the wrong trail here and there.

No ~5-10 mile trail should be something you can get lost on.

Isn't that more for the level of advancement of the different trails at Leb for liability purposes (i.e. beginner, intermediate, advanced) vs. not getting lost?

There are signs at Salem at each intersection that label the direction, North loop/south loop and how to get to the lot.

Bob geting all confused and taking wrong turns on the sweeper lap isn't all bad :p

[gopherhockey]

There are signs at Salem at each intersection that label the direction, North loop/south loop and how to get to the lot.



I think I just need to ride it during the day and/or see a map and it would be more clear. I have a hard time seeing the wording on the signs at night, and the way the term trailhead is used confuses me a bit. (thats my fault most likely)

More consistency between all our trails would probably help everyone quite a bit... its not any one specific trail really. I take enough heat over Leb to know how fun it is to be picked on relentlessly over nit picky issues. ;)

[KleinCrazy]

John,

I thought I sent you a GPS map of Salem to put up on the trail guide...

Which I am still working on by the way, up to 47 pages now...

L8er
James

[gopherhockey]

John,

I thought I sent you a GPS map of Salem to put up on the trail guide...

Which I am still working on by the way, up to 47 pages now...


47 pages. :crazy2: We better get a new web site provider again... ;)

I didn't get a GPS, can you re-send? I'll get it on the review immediately. Too cool!

[KleinCrazy]

oh... sorry I musy have missed the decimal...

that should read 4.7 pages....

I'll forward the map to you tonight. I have number of them and will pick the most informative.

James