Grip question...

[Danimal]

Ok, won some uber cool Lock-on bar end caps and I am looking at my Prophet wondering if I should cut off the rubber end of my stock Cannondale grips to place these bad boys on or do I need special lock-on grips for these.

Anyone know, if I need lock-on grips, anyone have an extra pair to sell?

Post up with some edumacation please.

Thanks

[Ish]

Do yourself a favor and ditch the c-dale ones and get some ODI lock-ons ASAP. Do it and you won't look back!

[bakkeb]

Diddo. After I bought my first pair of Lizard Skins lock-ons and used them, I imediately bought a pair for my other 3 bikes. You can't go wrong.:etard:

[Danimal]

Do yourself a favor and ditch the c-dale ones and get some ODI lock-ons ASAP. Do it and you won't look back!

yes, ODi, but which ones????? Hmmmm?

[LightWeight]

yes, ODi, but which ones????? Hmmmm?

Oury's - nice and squishy.

[nigel]

yes, ODi, but which ones????? Hmmmm?

Yeti! Yeti! Yeti! Yeti! Yeti! Yeti! Yeti! Yeti! Yeti! Yeti! Yeti! Yeti!

[bigwheel]

Dan,

First, I don't see any reason to cut off a perfectly good set of cannondale grips until you need to. If they are comfortable and not moving around, then don't mess with them. Once you have another reason to pull off a grip, that is time to change to a lock-on.

Second, I had a set of OURI lock-ons and they were partially responsible for my worst fall last season. They are great grips - until your gloves get sweaty. Then, (for me) they required too much of a grip to keep my hands from slipping off. I finally changed them out for the most gnarley grips I could find.

Finally, I still have my old set of OURI lock-ons in the junk box. If you'd like to give them a try, I'll loan them to you. If you fall in love with them, I'll trade them for a decent 12-oz beer after a ride.

On my list of things to do is to invent a set of velcro gloves/grips. Prior to the ride, smack your hands on the bars. After the ride, just peel your hands off. The thumb and first two fingers would have to be velcro-free in order to shift and break.

Bob S.

[rideharder]

ODi yeti are on sale for 9$ at jensonusa.com

[soupboy]

Not sure how big your mitts are but I like the ODI Rogues and my new fave, the Oury lock-ons. Not sure if there are different varieties of the Oury brand buy I ride without gloves whenever I can I have had no issues with slippage. Getting them wet seems to make them tackier IME.

I've got a good condition, smaller diameter set of Race Face lock-ons too if you're interested.

The Race Face Good and Evil is my favorite non-lock on grip. Large diameter and cushy.

[Kingbozo]

Go with ODI Rougue.

[flombe]

Go with ODI Rougue.

Ditto. Don't mess around.

I agree with Bigwheel on not switching out until you have a hint of dissatisfaction with your current grips. Wear 'em and tear 'em. Then buy the ODI Rogues.

[danger!]

I'm trying some of the Ourys as well, and like soupboy, I ride sans gloves. They are working out well so far. Much more fun to install than regular grips, that's fo sho.

[Kosk]

- Rogue if if you like a fatter, slightly soft ( but not to soft) grip,
- Ruffian if you like a narrower, firmer grip.

[jswing]

I agree with this;

- Ruffian if you like a narrower, firmer grip.

I've only used these since ODI came out with the lock-ons and have never had a problem - as good a grip as you'll you get till Bob's velcro-grips come out...

[berrywise]

Rogue user here.

[Danimal]

Ditto. Don't mess around.

I agree with Bigwheel on not switching out until you have a hint of dissatisfaction with your current grips. Wear 'em and tear 'em. Then buy the ODI Rogues.
My C-dales are twisting, it's irritating. I have large hands so the fatter the diameter the more comfortable I am. I'm gonna drive over to Eriks to see what they have in stock tonight.

[flombe]

My C-dales are twisting, it's irritating. I have large hands so the fatter the diameter the more comfortable .............

Well, there's your hint then! As mentioned below, the Rogues are "fatter".

[Tetreves]

I like my Rogue's. I don't use anything else any more. I've heard good things about the Yeti's, though.

The Ruffian's are WAY too thin for me.

[Ish]

My C-dales are twisting, it's irritating.

The wifes hairspay will cure this - just lift the grip with a screw driver (unless carbon bar) and spray or slide off the grip, spray the inside and then put back on

....or just get the ODI's - you know you want to:D :D

[Ish]

I've got a good condition, smaller diameter set of Race Face lock-ons too if you're interested.


I'll take them off your hands if Dan doesn't want them. The RF's on the Turner are starting to wear out.

[manual63]

Unless you have fairly long fingers, get thinner grips. For technical riding, it's much easier to hold on, pull up, and throw the bike around a bit when you don't have to worry about if you can hold on or not. Also, thinner grips help you reach and use brakes better while still holding on. Like the short stem thing, I am a bit extreme with the thin grip thing. Find what's comfortable for you and make sure you can comfortably hang on without having a "death grip" on the bars.

[berrywise]

Unless you have fairly long fingers, get thinner grips. For technical riding, it's much easier to hold on, pull up, and throw the bike around a bit when you don't have to worry about if you can hold on or not. Also, thinner grips help you reach and use brakes better while still holding on. Like the short stem thing, I am a bit extreme with the thin grip thing. Find what's comfortable for you and make sure you can comfortably hang on without having a "death grip" on the bars.

I would think that thinner grips would actually make it harder to reach the brakes because your fingers would actually be reaching farther away to reach the lever.

No matter I don't think a few millimeters of grip diameter is not going to make any real noticeable difference in your riding performance. I think a lot of it is in your mind Shad.

[manual63]

I think a lot of it is in your mind Shad.
Not really, I have fairly short fingers and I can't ride as well (technical riding) with thick grips. It's been this way since my BMX days. For a while in BMX, fatter grips became popular and I could not stand them. I actually put road bike bar tape on my BMX and mountain bike bars in the early 90's because I could not find thin grips I liked. Like I said in my previous post, I might be a bit extreme about this.....:)

Thicker grips are more comfortable, I will give them that. But for me, they give me less control.

[transplant]

On a related note, I run GripShift but am looking to get the lock on grips. Do they make any that are compatible? All I can ever find are the full length, and I'm not about to go back to Shimano shifters.

[danger!]

On a related note, I run GripShift but am looking to get the lock on grips. Do they make any that are compatible? All I can ever find are the full length, and I'm not about to go back to Shimano shifters.

Triggers, baby, triggers. :D

[Paul Swenson]

On a related note, I run GripShift but am looking to get the lock on grips. Do they make any that are compatible? All I can ever find are the full length, and I'm not about to go back to Shimano shifters.

Check this out. They're the Yetis but they're lock on:

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/GR707A04-Odi+Lock-On+Grips+-+Yeti+Hardcore+Twist.aspx

[transplant]

Triggers, baby, triggers. :D


AAAAAACCCCK! :sick: :mad: :fool:

[crux]

On a related note, I run GripShift but am looking to get the lock on grips. Do they make any that are compatible? All I can ever find are the full length, and I'm not about to go back to Shimano shifters.

ODI does make some shorties (GripShift length), locally I have not seen them either, but need to order some more as I've managerd to burn through a few. Wish that the bonty style would be reintroduced from ODI they were very sticky, but Bobs velcro homebrew version would still most likely be a bit better. If your looking for some in the near term see if you can't get a local shop to special order them for you, otherwise I know that MHC can hook you up.

[Danimal]

Not really, I have fairly short fingers and I can't ride as well (technical riding) with thick grips.

Shad must have stubbies :D

I have bannana fingers. :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

[Paul Swenson]

Shad must have stubbies :D

I have bannana fingers. :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Shad does like short stems;)

[manual63]

Shad does like short stems;)

Is yours short? ...;)

[steef]

I like long stems and I have long fingers.
Coincidence? I think not. :D
I'll build up a short stem byke one of these days. ;)

[Paul Swenson]

Is yours short? ...;)

Shorter than most with a 5 degrees rise.

[flombe]

Check this out. They're the Yetis but they're lock on:

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/GR707A04-Odi+Lock-On+Grips+-+Yeti+Hardcore+Twist.aspx

Back on thread...

I have a set of those and they are great! Notice that the $9 price does not include the lock rings! Add $11 for those. Pretty sure I paid around $20 at Erik's for the set.....

[Sevadari]

Not sure if I should start a new thread or not (someone lemme know and I'll shift it if necessary), but here goes...

Do any of you guys ride with bigger grips to avoid numbness in the hands (i.e., avoiding excessive pressure on the ulnar nerves)? How about riding with those "ergo" grips? Make any difference for you?

In addition to checking out my riding position, bike fit, etc, I'm trying to see if the grips I use will make any difference. Haven't switched grips yet since I'm on a student budget and used up my cash (:cryin:) for my new ride. :):):)

With a new bike I recently started riding (fairly thin grips) I was getting numbness on the outside of my hands and outside fingers within only 2 miles of riding. If I didn't do anything to change my hand grip the numbness would spread to pretty much the whole hand and get real numb to the point I'd have to shake it out to get the blood flowing through again.

After doing some research I then paid attention to riding position (i.e, not locking my elbows and keeping shoulders loose, using my core to support more, switching hand positions) and not putting on the death grip. This has helped quite a bit and the numbness doesn't set in till about 8-10 miles and hasn't been nearly as severe. However, it does continue off and on, particularly when I'm riding on the road/crushed limestone and in a more static position for longer periods of time.

Any suggestions? Will grips really make that much of a difference?:confused::confused::confused: I'd love to hear what y'all think and if anyone else has had the same problem.

thanks in advance!

[bike>>rider]

Any suggestions? Will grips really make that much of a difference?:confused::confused::confused: I'd love to hear what y'all think and if anyone else has had the same problem.


Do you wear gloves while riding? I always wear (thinly) padded 661 full-finger gloves when I ride off-road, more for protection than to fight numbness but they prevent that too. I never really suffered from hand numbness but my wife did and gloves helped her situation. If you aren't already wearing gloves, I'd look to them first before searching for thicker grips, IMO. I didn't read this whole thread so it this has already been mentioned . . .

[Paul Swenson]

Any suggestions? Will grips really make that much of a difference?:confused::confused::confused: I'd love to hear what y'all think and if anyone else has had the same problem.

thanks in advance!

I may get flamed for this suggestion but I'll make it anyways.

Have you tried bar ends? On longer rides it may help to switch your hand position. Somebody on this board probably has some they would be willing to part with for cheap. Purple Anodized if you're lucky.

[soupboy]

I've got no less than 3 pair of bar ends - each a different shape. They're free to anyone willing to come get 'em.

BTW - grips are like saddles - everyone is going to have a personal preference/fit need.

I may get flamed for this suggestion but I'll make it anyways.

Have you tried bar ends? On longer rides it may help to switch your hand position. Somebody on this board probably has some they would be willing to part with for cheap. Purple Anodized if you're lucky.

[tedsti]

My sister, who is a physical therapist, told me this trick which works for me. Stand at a doorway with your arms straight out so your elbows are on the door frame. Then lean into it so it stretches the front of your shoulders. There is a nerve or something that runs through there that contributes to hand numbness, especially the outer digits.

[Sevadari]

Hey gang, thanks for all the suggestions!

Alright, here we go:

Gloves...

Yes, I usually ride with a pair of race face 3/4 length gloves with medium padding. Definitely part of the overall strategy and it does help, but maybe I should try a different type of glove since I've read that sometimes a poorly-positioned pad can actually make things worse:confused:.

Bar ends...

Have used 'em in the past (especially when living in Utah and doing pretty sustained climb rides in the Rockies), but don't right now. Have been meaning to get some for my new ride...soupboy, I'd love to take a pair of 'em off of yer hands (pun intended), really appreciate the "free" part as I'm currently a student. Perhaps I can PM ya and see how we can hook up.

Shoulders...

Ted, another good suggestion since I have found that I do seem to tense up my shoulders, neck and upper back. For some reason I don't do it with my hands...just need to re-train the noggin and body!

Well done gentlemen! I'll try these ideas.

Anyone have an opinion either way about "ergo" grips?

[Paul Swenson]

It sounds like you're getting things figured out pretty well but just to confuse things a little bit more....

How about different bars? In particular the On One Marys. Anyone have any expirience with these?

http://www.on-one.co.uk/images/pagemaster/mary.jpg

[Sevadari]

It sounds like you're getting things figured out pretty well but just to confuse things a little bit more....

How about different bars? In particular the On One Marys. Anyone have any expirience with these?




Yeah, figuring it out slowly but surely.

Wow, shaweeeet bars!!! Do tassles come as an optional addon?! You know, the pink and sparkly kind?

JK, just messing with ya :p:p:p . Seriously though, I'd be real interested to see if anyone has had any experience with that bar. I can see how it might help with some issues, but they seem to be pretty dang angulated and might really change your riding style and what you can do!

[hockeynut]

How about different bars? In particular the On One Marys. Anyone have any expirience with these?
I have read a LOT of good things about the Marys and how they can really help with fatigue and actually help bike control too....

I really want to try the Marys, but due to my particular handlebar/stem setup the cost will be pretty up there (long story short, I'd need to buy two). They look uber-comfy with a good set of grips. Only negative I see is that there doesn't seem to be a good spot for a bar mounted light.

Isaac

[Tetreves]

I have read a LOT of good things about the Marys and how they can really help with fatigue and actually help bike control too....

I really want to try the Marys, but due to my particular handlebar/stem setup the cost will be pretty up there (long story short, I'd need to buy two). They look uber-comfy with a good set of grips. Only negative I see is that there doesn't seem to be a good spot for a bar mounted light.

Isaac

I've tried them for a few minutes only. I found them to have too much sweep for my tastes.

[LightWeight]

I've been using On-One's Fleegle bar

http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=68&MMN_position=163:163

It has a lot of back sweep (not nearly as much as the Mary bar) and lots of room for lights, computer, etc... Maybe that would be worth a try?

[Paul Swenson]

I've been using On-One's Fleegle bar

... Maybe that would be worth a try?

Did you get those locally or did you order them over the net? Those may be more what I'm looking for.

[LightWeight]

Did you get those locally or did you order them over the net? Those may be more what I'm looking for.

www.zedsport.com

[Tetreves]

I've been using On-One's Fleegle bar

http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=68&MMN_position=163:163

It has a lot of back sweep (not nearly as much as the Mary bar) and lots of room for lights, computer, etc... Maybe that would be worth a try?

I'm afraid to try it, because then I might like it and want to buy one. But then I'll need a new stem, 'cause my stem is oversized, and I don't think the bar is.

Conundrum...

[LightWeight]

I'm afraid to try it, because then I might like it and want to buy one. But then I'll need a new stem, 'cause my stem is oversized, and I don't think the bar is.

Conundrum...

Well, if we ever happen to be in the same place, you can try my rigid 29er with the Fleegle and I can try the "Magic" fork on yours. How about that? :D

You're right - it does not use an oversized stem.

[Tetreves]

Well, if we ever happen to be in the same place, you can try my rigid 29er with the Fleegle and I can try the "Magic" fork on yours. How about that? :D

You're right - it does not use an oversized stem.

Good deal!

[soupboy]

Just remember that if you go with a backswept bar - Jones, Fleegle, Mary, etc. - you'll need to get a longer stem to keep your position static. Typically +20-50mm depending on the bar's sweep.

FWIW - I've got a few long(er)(ish) 25.4mm diameter stems looking for a home.

[Tetreves]

Fleegle compensates for the sweep by bringing the center back. Grips end up where they should.

And I love my stem too much!

http://www.hopegb.com/photos/STOOO70P1.jpg

[Danimal]

Officially Hijacked

[Tetreves]

Officially Hijacked

Just a little....

Sorry about that.

[Sevadari]

I've got no less than 3 pair of bar ends - each a different shape. They're free to anyone willing to come get 'em.

BTW - grips are like saddles - everyone is going to have a personal preference/fit need.

Just shot you a PM. Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks!