NEW XTR phase II

[MTB4LIFE99]

check out (http://bike.shimano.com/publish/etc/medialib/sac_cycle_media_library/movies.Par.0003.File.tmp/xtr_sea_otter_2006_ver2.mov.mov)
SWEET (http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/cycle/sac/us/en/news_and_information/news/2007_xtr_-_phase_ii.html)

[Tetreves]

Where's the single speed parts? :etard:

[soupboy]

I'd look, but SRAM has rendered Shi+mano moot in my book...:cool:

[Ish]

I'd look, but SRAM has rendered Shi+mano moot in my book...:cool:

werd

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[crux]

Since when did our bike parts need to look like they were straight out of a comic book? Where are the precision machined components that were of a simple elegant design? Sorry but I like the simplicity of a component and its design when they are machined out of some exotic alloy and sure I do find some composite components nice but these actually follow the machined design with a bit of added personality.

[MTB4LIFE99]

http://www.sram.com/_media/images/common/sram/mountain/components/x0/img_main_rearderailleur.jpgthis is what im talking aboot!

[Tetreves]

Since when did our bike parts need to look like they were straight out of a comic book?

Maybe they got Stan Lee to endorse them:

http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/cycle/sac/us/en/news_and_information/news/2007_xtr_-_part_1.MainContent.0004.Image.gif

:D

[Tetreves]

And here's another major problem:

quoted from Shimano's website regarding the new disc rotors:

"The new XTR rotors use Shimano’s patented Centerlock technology and receive a new star pattern."

Half a page later on the same webpage, regarding Shimano's new disc hubs:

"Compatible with the standard sized Center Lock rotors"

How is the new hub compatible with a "standard sized Center Lock rotor" when it's patented, and isn't a standard size at all?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I'm just saying they're lying bastards.

[Chauncy]

EWWWWW DUAL CONTROL!!!!!!! As soon as I saw the mech shifting with the brake lever in the movie I closed the window.

[steef]

I'll stick with my singles and sixes and sevens, thanks. ;)

I'll have to get one of those for my son Xavier, of course. :D

[Standard]

What, exactly, are you trying to say here? The 20mm through-axle is a standard size, and is getting more and more common. They changed the way the lockring works so they could fit a bigger axle without having to use a larger diameter spline, like they did with the Saint centerlocks.

And here's another major problem:

quoted from Shimano's website regarding the new disc rotors:

"The new XTR rotors use Shimano’s patented Centerlock technology and receive a new star pattern."

Half a page later on the same webpage, regarding Shimano's new disc hubs:

"Compatible with the standard sized Center Lock rotors"

How is the new hub compatible with a "standard sized Center Lock rotor" when it's patented, and isn't a standard size at all?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I'm just saying they're lying bastards.

[Tetreves]

What, exactly, are you trying to say here? The 20mm through-axle is a standard size, and is getting more and more common. They changed the way the lockring works so they could fit a bigger axle without having to use a larger diameter spline, like they did with the Saint centerlocks.
I'm saying they've stated creating a "New Centerlock", and that it's patented. They've also declared it a "standard".

I fail to see how anything "new" is "standard", unless Shimano, Sram, Hope, and Hayes all sat in a room together and voted that this centerlock would be a new standard (unlikely).

It has nothing to do with 20mm TA, just the way they said it. It's not like it's an ISO.

It's like a frame manufacturer developing a NEW FS bike design, then saying they use "standard rear suspension".

[nigel]

I'm saying they've stated creating a "New Centerlock", and that it's patented. They've also declared it a "standard".

I fail to see how anything "new" is "standard", unless Shimano, Sram, Hope, and Hayes all sat in a room together and voted that this centerlock would be a new standard (unlikely).

It has nothing to do with 20mm TA, just the way they said it. It's not like it's an ISO.

It's like a frame manufacturer developing a NEW FS bike design, then saying they use "standard rear suspension".
So its not the new industry standard, but its the new standard for Shimano.

[Tetreves]

So its not the new industry standard, but its the new standard for Shimano.

Maybe. Or one of 10 new standards for Shimano.

[Standard]

Well, the centerlock design is a standard, which is why companies like DT Swiss build compatible hubs. Centerlock is way better than the ISO 6 bolt design.

Anyways, the didn't create a new centerlock. They just changed the way the lockring works. The 'new star pattern' is refering to the shape/design of the rotor itself, not the centerlock.

[jitterjepp]

check out (http://bike.shimano.com/publish/etc/medialib/sac_cycle_media_library/movies.Par.0003.File.tmp/xtr_sea_otter_2006_ver2.mov.mov)
That was the most annoying piece of media I have ever seen on the internet. Are they trying to mess mith my eyes, hypnotize me or make me vomit?

[nowbrdr123]

Maybe shimano will get an endorsment by the x-men.

[steef]

I want Wolverine brake levers. :D