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drmrboyalex
10-12-2005, 12:49 PM
Does anyone know how to do nose wheelies? Ive wanted learn but have no idea what to do.

Thanks

KleinCrazy
10-12-2005, 12:53 PM
Can I do them? Yes.


Do I know how to? No.

I have been able to learn on the Inbred how to do both a braking and non-braking nose wheelie but I have to to be able to role them for any length og time.

Sometimes I have the balance just right and I can role for a good 10 feet other times I go up and right back down. I can tend to hold them longer on a slight downhill so gravity works to your advantage but I have also rolled them on flats.


You will need to ask a flatlander or a trials guy for a better idea on how to do them.

The one thing I can suggest is practice on Grass as it makes for a slightly softer landing.

drmrboyalex
10-12-2005, 12:55 PM
I go up and right back down....
The one thing I can suggest is practice on Grass as it makes for a slightly softer landing.

I can go up then down but i dont know how to balance myself to roll it.

the grass thing is a good idea too....thought about wearin a cup to incase i cant drop the bike so i dont get :hit::hit: :p

KleinCrazy
10-12-2005, 01:06 PM
I can go up then down but i dont know how to balance myself to roll it.

the grass thing is a good idea too.

The balance part of a nose wheelie is the hardest part. Unlike a regular one, you don't have a lot of room for body adjustment to control the balance, and is you go to far, there is nothing you can really do to correct it. On a regular wheelie grab rear brake and back down you come, doesn't work like that off the nose.

Learn how to roll out of an endo, tuck your head and try and land in a rolling motion on your shoulders and upper back.

Practice on a mat or on some soft surface, dive forward arms leading tuck your head and arms and roll with the impact on your shoulders.

Broken collar bones come from people trying to catch themselves in an endo with their arms. This does not work as it directs almost all of the impact force up your locked arms spraining or breaking wrists and collar bones.

When doing diving practice on the Trampolines in college we called this form a ball-out. We would lauch high, dive toward the tramp head first then tuck with our arms straight over our heads and try and land in a rolling motion right along the upper shoulders with the head tucked and knee's bent, this allowed us to kick the up with our legs and feet on the rebound and throw our arms to wrap a pike or tuck and we could do anywhere from 1 to 3 rotations before coming out to land in a ball-out again to launch another one. I had a teamate that was able to do 4 1/2 to his feet out of these.

Kosk
10-12-2005, 02:30 PM
The keys are front brake modulation and body position. Yeah some guys can do them without a front brake, but they typically get PAID to ride their bike.

Easiest to learn on a down slope, you shouldn't have to worry too much about going over the bars, just let go of the brake and gravity will bring you back down. You can do them on flat ground, but it's harder to learn becuase you constantly slow down. On a hill, you should be able to find a spot where the brake pressure is constant, your speed is constant, and all you have to do is maintain body position.

Thor does 'em real good, he said he learned them by rolling down the ditch in his front yard coming off the street. Here's a shot of him schooling us all, again:
http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/500/9-25_03.jpg

SpecHR55
10-12-2005, 04:03 PM
I can do them for like 5 feet and i just feather the brakes and try to keep my back tire up.

gordanfreeman
10-14-2005, 04:59 PM
yea find a downhill and work on finding the sweet spot with your front brake. usually just letting the brake go will allow you to come down w/out too many problems. i have found that it is important to commit tho. when you first start you might be afraid of bailing and wont commit enough making it near impossible to get off the ground. you'll learn your limits pretty quick tho and then its just a matter of practice.

drmrboyalex
10-22-2005, 12:54 PM
until he falls this (http://media.putfile.com/Film_00027223) was a pretty good one

Beau
10-23-2005, 01:10 PM
Find a steep downhill.

Do them no footed first. It's a lot easier to do them that way, and you can bail easier. Once you find your hill, approach it at a comfortable speed, hit the front brake and throw your feet out in front of you. Your legs will help you control your balance, as you can swing them forward and back to help.

Longest I have done is about 50 feet downhill.

It's by far one of THE BEST skills to learn. I have saved myself a bunch of times because I was comfortable on the front wheel.

I don't have any pics, or vid. Adam might have some stuff though.

manual63
10-24-2005, 12:16 PM
Nose wheelies are really tough. I can kind of do them, but have never really practiced them much. I usually ride pretty fast then hit the front brake with my weight a little forward to get the back wheel up. Once the rear wheel starts to come of the ground I lean back more and slightly let off the brake. The issue I have is I let off the brake too much and the rear wheel starts to drop so I have to pull harder on the brake to get the rear wheel up again. This slows me down quite quickly......so I usually do about 3 or 4 pumps or so of this and then come to a stop in an endo.

What I need to learn it where that ideal spot is for the front brake so it just nose wheelies smooth. Doing it down a slope does help, but I have seen riders do them on flat for pretty long and very smooth. I just need more practice. The scary thing about these is to make sure you don't endo and flip over. So when leaning, start off by slightly squeezing the front brake at first, the rear wheel will probably not come off the ground. Then do it again and grab the brake a little harder, and you can even push foward on the bars a little to help the wheel come off the ground. Keep doing this until you get the rear wheel slightly off the ground. Now all you have to do is get the rear wheel up high enough to that balance point where you can modulate the brake and adjust your weight to keep the rear wheel up in the air. Whatever you do, don't learn this by riding fast then jamming hard on the front brake......you will flip if you try to learn it this way. It's better to slowly build up to it.

Beau
10-24-2005, 02:16 PM
Shad, have you ever tried to do them no footed?

You will be surprised at how much easier it is to learn them! Plus, you're already in 'half bail' mode, so if you go over, all you have to do is hop off and let the bike go!

manual63
10-24-2005, 02:28 PM
Shad, have you ever tried to do them no footed?

I tried them on my freestyle bike like that, but never quite got it down. I have not tried it no footed on my MTB yet. I will give it a shot and see how it goes. I know that a lot of the flatland BMX tricks I used to do required dangling a foot or two for balance, so I understand the concept of what you are saying.

drmrboyalex
10-24-2005, 02:42 PM
i need to get my front brake fixed but all this seems like it will help A LOT.


shad-when u were doing bmx did u ever try flatland stuff? that was the main thing i wanted to do but o man did i suck at it.

manual63
10-24-2005, 02:49 PM
shad-when u were doing bmx did u ever try flatland stuff? that was the main thing i wanted to do but o man did i suck at it.

I started doing flatland in about '82. Back then it was all stall balance tricks and hopping stuff. I was really good at the hopping stuff, like front wheel hops, peg hops, and that weird stuff. In the late 80's and early 90's, hopping and stall tricks were no longer the rage, it all became rolling and spinning stuff and flatland just got way too hard for me. I learned some of the rolling stuff, mostly going backwards, but just never stuck it out. I got into street/urban riding in the early 90's and did a lot of grinding and gap tricks downtown and at the U of M. Not much flatland after that, but I can still bust out some of my old flatland stuff every now and then.....:)

gordanfreeman
10-24-2005, 03:03 PM
Shad, have you ever tried to do them no footed?

You will be surprised at how much easier it is to learn them! Plus, you're already in 'half bail' mode, so if you go over, all you have to do is hop off and let the bike go!seems to me if my feet are off the pedals it would be harder to bail if i go over the handlebars than if they were on the pedals. maybe im wrong tho, ill have to try it this way next time i go out.

drmrboyalex
10-24-2005, 03:07 PM
peg hops

when i was bikin we used to have contests to see who could go the longest doin these but we called them pogos or pogo hops

drmrboyalex
10-24-2005, 03:12 PM
seems to me if my feet are off the pedals it would be harder to bail if i go over the handlebars than if they were on the pedals. maybe im wrong tho, ill have to try it this way next time i go out.

i dont think ur sposed to go ever the bars.... i think ur sposed to put ur feet down insted of gettin nutted

Beau
10-24-2005, 05:35 PM
i dont think ur sposed to go ever the bars.... i think ur sposed to put ur feet down insted of gettin nutted

Nope, just stick your feet straight out in front of you. If you go over the bars, it's just like playing 'leap frog'. just let go of the bars, and hop off.

Try it and you'll see. Being on the pedals is a lot harder and more dangerous than having your feet off. With your feet off, you're already half off the bike!

I do nose wheelies clipped in to BTW. :crazy:

drmrboyalex
10-24-2005, 05:59 PM
plus, no footed looks way cooler too:cool:

SpecHR55
10-24-2005, 08:44 PM
Shouldn't it be nose MANUELS?? Wheelies are when you pedal to keep your self up and manuels are balancing to keep your self up. Can't really pedal when the back tire is off the ground. unless the chain goes to the front tire.:confused:

drmrboyalex
10-24-2005, 09:36 PM
Shouldn't it be nose MANUELS?? Wheelies are when you pedal to keep your self up and manuels are balancing to keep your self up. Can't really pedal when the back tire is off the ground. unless the chain goes to the front tire.:confused:

i always thought that but i have always heard em called nose wheelies

Thor
10-25-2005, 12:19 PM
Chaulk one up for calling them "nose manuals".


Another tip.... find a pretty steep hill. Although bailing on a steep hill can be a little more demanding of your cat-like skills, it makes the stunt easier. When your on a steep hill, the difference between doing a nose manual and just riding down isn't that much different. If the hill is steep enough, your back tire may only need to be off the ground a few inches. You don't have to go through that hole transition of throwing your bike up on the front end, you just feather the brake little more and "presto" nose manual down the hill.

Last one... don't fear the crash. Usually your body figures out a way to jump the bars in a pinch.

manual63
10-25-2005, 02:54 PM
Chaulk one up for calling them "nose manuals".

I call them nose manuals, because....that's what they are.

The name manual comes from skateboarding. A manual is when a skater is rolling on the rear wheels with the front wheels off the ground. A nose manual is rolling on the front wheels with the rear wheels off the ground. We already had wheelies (pedaling with the front wheel off the ground) in BMX, so when we started doing them without pedaling and using our body to balance, just like a skateboarder, it only made since to call them the same thing......a manual. If you do it on the front wheel, no drivetrain, it's a nose manual.

Now you just need to figure out where the 63 comes from........:)

drmrboyalex
10-25-2005, 04:50 PM
Now you just need to figure out where the 63 comes from........:)

if we guess will you tell us??? cuz i think it is from you manualing 63 parking spots. that seems rather high but that is my guess

gordanfreeman
10-25-2005, 06:09 PM
ahhh i get it now. still run the risk of the bike rolling over on top of you but i guess that would happen anyways... and has happened to me many a time already :hit:

now i just have to get my front break fixed/reinstalled :cryin:

drmrboyalex
10-25-2005, 06:39 PM
now i just have to get my front break fixed/reinstalled :cryin:

im in the same boat:embarass: :cryin:

Beau
10-26-2005, 12:29 AM
Naw! Just stick your foot in the in front wheel. :banana:

drmrboyalex
10-26-2005, 12:32 AM
Naw! Just stick your foot in the in front wheel. :banana:

old skool:cool: