The good and bad at Leb Yesterday.

[manual63]

The bad first:

I had a guy rub my rear tire at Leb yesterday. I knew he was behind me, but I was going fairly fast. He didn't ask me to allow him to pass, so I figured he didn't mind tailing me. Next thing I know.....buuuzzzzz!!! I wasn't upset because I am sure I slowed up on a hill climb and he didn't expect it; I am not a good climber. He apologized for it and I just kind of laughed it off.

But, if it was a newbie he did this too, that would not be too good. Some newbie might be scared if they think someone might just run into the back of them on the trail........not a good impression to give them of us more experienced riders.

Now the good:

I got a major pinch flat over the rough log pile in the XX Loop, just before the rock garden climb. I know that's a bad thing, but just wait a sec.....I will get to the good part. So, I had some patches, but after taking off my tube and seeing two 1/2 inch slices, I knew the patches were no good. Some guy riding by asked me if I had it takin' care of. I said I needed a tube because my pinch flat was too major for patches and I asked him if he had one. Sure enough, he had a tube and gave it to me. I asked if he came to the forums and if so I could pay him back somehow, and he said, just do a favor for another rider someday. Now, that is a cool attitude to have! Thanks whoever you are....and I guess I will try to have at least 1 tube on me at all times. Either for myself or someone else who may need it.

By the way, I wore my new Ked Helmet at Leb.....that might make some of you happy......just don't look at the pictures of me riding the tree at Steeplechase without a helmet.......:D

[SuperV]

The bad first:

I had a guy rub my rear tire at Leb yesterday. I knew he was behind me, but I was going fairly fast. He didn't ask me to allow him to pass, so I figured he didn't mind tailing me. Next thing I know.....buuuzzzzz!!! I wasn't upset because I am sure I slowed up on a hill climb and he didn't expect it; I am not a good climber. He apologized for it and I just kind of laughed it off.

:D
Rubbin' is racin'
Can't take the heat move over.
A properly executed rub is something a newbie wouldn't be able to do.
When your friends do it to you it's funny but someone you don't know gives you the rub, you've been schooled.

[dave t]

The tire buzzz must have been an accident. I can't even imagine buzzing somebody I didn't know. I know it makes my wife MAD because she thinks it will knock her down.

At least you did the flat tire now instead of in a few weeks when the skeeters will be there to help you get the job done quickly.

[bolmsted]

Sheesh, no kidding. Rubbing is like a form of intimacy. I guess I would have felt pretty violated. ...Unless I was really lonely. ...which I am. ...but still. C'mon, how rude.

[soupboy]

...it was a bonehead friend doing it (I know I do) it would be go time for that fella. There's no excuse for that.

Person in front always has right of way. It's like being DH on a ski slope.

All ya gotta do is ask to pass...and be sure to say thanks.

Sean

Rubbin' is racin'
Can't take the heat move over.
A properly executed rub is something a newbie wouldn't be able to do.
When your friends do it to you it's funny but someone you don't know gives you the rub, you've been schooled.

[Thewavebb]

I know it makes my wife MAD because she thinks it will knock her down.


My wife wont ride with me unless its on her terms now. I guess I put her in too many scary situations.

[Tex]

All ya gotta do is ask to pass...and be sure to say thanks.
Sean

On the flip side of this issue, I've been in the other person's shoes as well. I'm in no way a racer, or even fast for that matter. But last year while riding the new stuff at the beginning of Lebanon. I caught up to a slower rider and asked to pass. He ignored me and picked up his pace, for a few minutes anyhow. I asked again, and again no response. My first guess was that maybe the person had headphones on, or maybe might have been deaf. But that wasn't the case, I believe that it was just a case of Machizmo, he wasn't about to be passed by some old fat guy like me.
It all boils down to just being polite, and respectful.

[Trevize1138]

Tire buzzing, asking politely to pass ... that's all fine and good if you're worried about getting a run in your pantiehose. A real man gets right up next to you and throws a stick into the spokes of your front wheel and shouts "OWNED!!!" and you crash and burn.

;)

[Magic]

Don't forget to beyatch slap him in the head on the way down to mother earth also.:etard:

[Trevize1138]

On the flip side of this issue, I've been in the other person's shoes as well. I'm in no way a racer, or even fast for that matter. But last year while riding the new stuff at the beginning of Lebanon. I caught up to a slower rider and asked to pass. He ignored me and picked up his pace, for a few minutes anyhow. I asked again, and again no response. My first guess was that maybe the person had headphones on, or maybe might have been deaf. But that wasn't the case, I believe that it was just a case of Machizmo, he wasn't about to be passed by some old fat guy like me.
It all boils down to just being polite, and respectful.

I love those little ego cases! It's so much fun to watch them try to kill themselves keeping you from passing them until they either completely run out-of-gas and give up or try to save face and make it look like they need to stop for a "mechanical." :)

[manual63]

Yeah, I think he felt pretty silly about it. He must have been pretty close and had his head down or something. When I slowed on the hill, he just bbbuuuzzzzzed my tire......I thought it was kinda funny and I can handle a little contact, heck I raced BMX for 20 some years.

My main point would be if this happened to a newbie.......and how that would affect their view of MTBers.

[SuperV]

Person in front always has right of way. It's like being DH on a ski slope.

All ya gotta do is ask to pass...and be sure to say thanks.

Sean
Giving someone the rub is not like knocking someone over or cutting someone off on the ski hill.
It's playful gamesmanship. And you should know when to do it and who to do it to.
I guess I'm not that sensitvie.

[SuperV]

Yeah, I think he felt pretty silly about it. He must have been pretty close and had his head down or something. When I slowed on the hill, he just bbbuuuzzzzzed my tire......I thought it was kinda funny and I can handle a little contact, heck I raced BMX for 20 some years.

My main point would be if this happened to a newbie.......and how that would affect their view of MTBers.

sounds good

[manual63]

On the other hand, I don't think many MTBers would want to not let me pass after me giving them a few warnings that I want to pass. I usually say, "when you get a chance, can you let me pass?" I do this because it is not always convenient to pull off to the side, especially if the trail is tight. Plus, it widens the trail if people pull off the sides. So, I don't mind waiting until the trail opens up a bit for someone to let me pass. But, if in the end they don't, BMX mode kicks in and they won't like how I take them in a corner.......:D

In the 90's when I raced MTB, I did this to some jerk who kept trying to block me from passing. I was like......you are picking on the wrong dude.....I even told him that. Then I took the inside of a turn on him and he got the elbow under his arm and into his chest as I cut and lifted him outta my way. He almost lost it......and so did I when I started laughing.....:)

I have done this to Chris a few times messin' around......and he makes this sound......whoa...whoa...aaaa....every time I do it to him.....:)

[Trevize1138]

I have done this to Chris a few times messin' around......and he makes this sound......whoa...whoa...aaaa....every time I do it to him.....:)

I don't appreciate you posting on a public forums the kinds of sounds you can get me to make ... :fool:

[bolmsted]

On the other hand, it is just as fun to have someone behind you occasionally rubbing your tire and then where there is a slight rise, you just get up out of the saddle to maintain speed but without pedaling through as you stand. Letting that back wheel lurk unexpectedly right back into their front wheel is hilarious as they eat dirt. ...then you blow smoke in their face and ride away laughing. :etard:

[soupboy]

...that is why you should ask. A race is a race...totally differently sitcheeation. Blocking is your right as is a "friendly" rub or risky pass. Risk meet reward.

I don't race but I'll merrily block anyone who doesn't think they have to ask to pass. Go ahead - rub/pet/caress me. Then see what happens when 275# of combined man and bike come to a screeching halt when you least expect it. I've never seen the front guy lose in that scenario! Note, I will help you repair your flat and true your wheel...:D

On the other hand, I don't think many MTBers would want to not let me pass after me giving them a few warnings that I want to pass. I usually say, "when you get a chance, can you let me pass?" I do this because it is not always convenient to pull off to the side, especially if the trail is tight. Plus, it widens the trail if people pull off the sides.

[manual63]

...that is why you should ask. A race is a race...totally differently sitcheeation. Blocking is your right as is a "friendly" rub or risky pass. Risk meet reward.

Actually, MTB races are not like BMX races. A faster rider has the right of way to pass and you are supposed to allow it when they ask. Now, if you are both battling it out and fairly even matched, it might be different, but it is common courtesy to let them pass if they are a faster rider......and usually this is pretty obvious.

In a BMX race, if you are slow, but you can block riders from passing you.....you are good to go. I never really was a super fast BMXer, but I could pass well and block well and I had good power out of the turns. It was top end where I was slow.......some of those guys can spin like mad men.

[bolmsted]

Actually, MTB races are not like BMX races. A faster rider has the right of way to pass and you are supposed to allow it when they ask. Now, if you are both battling it out and fairly even matched, it might be different, but it is common courtesy to let them pass if they are a faster rider......and usually this is pretty obvious.

Indeed. Especially when you are in a different racing class than the person behind you or in front. ...That one really gets my goat.

[soupboy]

...but I've seen obnoxious leg shavers relentlessly tailgate unsuspecting riders out for a casual ride. I don't mind being passed - just ask. I've always yielded assuming there is room to get off the trail or I'm not in the middle of climb. I like my own pace and nobody has the right to interrupt another's "flow" (or lack therof).

Actually, MTB races are not like BMX races. A faster rider has the right of way to pass and you are supposed to allow it when they ask.

[Ish]

Looks like it is time to put the studded tire back on the rear again:D

[tedsti]

I should do this for one of the big night rides. It would be cool to watch the sparks fly in the rock gardens.


Looks like it is time to put the studded tire back on the rear again:D

[Kingbozo]

Tire buzzing, asking politely to pass ... that's all fine and good if you're worried about getting a run in your pantiehose. A real man gets right up next to you and throws a stick into the spokes of your front wheel and shouts "OWNED!!!" and you crash and burn.

;)

ROTFLMAO!!!! That is, hands down, the funniest post I have read here in a long, long time. Kick a**!!!!