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danger!
09-27-2004, 12:48 PM
Ok, I'm gonna take advantage of the ridiculously low prices for Deore disc wheels from Jensonusa and the like. I'm wondering if anyone has any feedback on Sun Singletrack vs. RhynoLite rims. I've heard Singletrack is not the way to go for heavier riders, so i need some help. I guess I may be considered a heavier rider (185??) but I'll let you guys decide that one. :D

Any input is greatly appreciated!

-Dan

manual63
09-27-2004, 01:25 PM
I am actually about 180 - 185 pounds and of course you all know I beat on my bike. I have some pretty lightweight rims, some Mavic thing on the rear and some upper end lightweight Alex rim on the front, and they hold up pretty well. If you wheels are built well, they will last a long time under normal MTB use.

So make this decision based on how you ride. If you do a lot of XC riding and climbing, go with the lighter weight wheel. Saving rotational weight is the most important place to gain performance. If you don't jump a lot and do stuff I am accustomed to doing, you will be fine. I personally would like a pair of the wider Rhyno Light rims, I forget what they are called. XL maybe? But the extra weight will slow me down a little on the climbs and other XC stuff. I am not sure how much heavier they are, so I don't know what effect they really would have. I am going to do the exact same thing you are with my new On-One frame. I am going to convert to disc and I need to have a good wheel setup. I might even buy two pairs. One for racing and another for general riding/thrashing. I like the On-One and it might just replace my P.2 duties to a degree. I have been using it to test the MORC Party stuff we built and it's a great jumper and technical riding frame.

manual63
09-27-2004, 01:29 PM
I just went to the Sun/Ringle site and see that the Rhyno Lite XL rims are lighter than the SingleTrack ones. I would go with the Rhyno Lite XL's. The wider rim will give your tires more cornering stability.

These and some Maxxis Larson TT's for tires and your set!!!

That will be my setup soon.

danger!
09-27-2004, 01:31 PM
The RhynoLite XL's built up with XT disc hubs are actually only 30 grams heavier than the Singletracks. I think I might go with the RhynoLite's, because I will be using them for winter riding, and it'd be nice to have a little wider rim. I'll be doing some XC riding, but also some urban/backyard type stuff, so I might need the extra strength.

Thanks for the input Shad.

SuperClydesdale
09-27-2004, 01:33 PM
Dan

RhyonoLite's are approved for SuperClydesdales, they will be plenty strong for you. Just be aware that they are machine-built wheels (hence the deals) and really need a professional's touch to make them all they can be. I'd engage Reed over at OneOnOne to set them up for you; that is money very well spent.

Once caveat with the RhynoLites is that some tires can be a real PITA to remove/replace. I have the bloody knuckles to prove it.

Mark


Ok, I'm gonna take advantage of the ridiculously low prices for Deore disc wheels from Jensonusa and the like. I'm wondering if anyone has any feedback on Sun Singletrack vs. RhynoLite rims. I've heard Singletrack is not the way to go for heavier riders, so i need some help. I guess I may be considered a heavier rider (185??) but I'll let you guys decide that one. :D

Any input is greatly appreciated!

-Dan

manual63
09-27-2004, 01:39 PM
Dan

RhyonoLite's are approved for SuperClydesdales, they will be plenty strong for you. Just be aware that they are machine-built wheels (hence the deals) and really need a professional's touch to make them all they can be. I'd engage Reed over at OneOnOne to set them up for you; that is money very well spent.

Once caveat with the RhynoLites is that some tires can be a real PITA to remove/replace. I have the bloody knuckles to prove it.

Mark

Better yet. Order all the parts through One On One and have Reed build them from scratch. Bring a good wheelbuilder like Reed a machine built wheel that you ordered cheaply through mail-order is kinda like slappin' a guy in the face with a shovel. It's worth the extra money to just have it done right from the start. Also, you will save more money in the long run because the wheels will last longer when they are hand built by a master such as Reed.....trust me on this one....... :)

manual63
09-27-2004, 01:43 PM
The RhynoLite XL's built up with XT disc hubs are actually only 30 grams heavier than the Singletracks. I think I might go with the RhynoLite's, because I will be using them for winter riding, and it'd be nice to have a little wider rim. I'll be doing some XC riding, but also some urban/backyard type stuff, so I might need the extra strength.

Thanks for the input Shad.

http://www.sun-ringle.com/prods/mtbrims.html

The Singletrack shows a wieght of 540g/590g while the RhynoLite XL's show 512g/565g. So I don't know how the RhynoLite XL's can be heavier.

danger!
09-27-2004, 01:45 PM
One reason I don't have a problem spending money on machine built wheels is the fact that I can fine-tune them myself. I used to work at a wheel building company(HED). I'm buying pre-built wheels because I want to get up and running fast, and get out riding before snow flies.

I guess if the RhynoLite's are SuperClyde approved, they should hold up just fine!

danger!
09-27-2004, 01:47 PM
http://www.sun-ringle.com/prods/mtbrims.html

The Singletrack shows a wieght of 540g/590g while the RhynoLite XL's show 512g/565g. So I don't know how the RhynoLite XL's can be heavier.

I don't get it either...

Unless it is a spoke weight difference. These particular builds differ in that the RhynoXL's have Wheelsmith spokes.

Buck
09-27-2004, 01:50 PM
I run a single track rear wheel on my BIGHIT. the rim is now on it's second hub, still going strong, and my bike is ridden year around and very hard...in my opinion it doesn't really matter of the rims you picked which one is best, it matters more that you have them built up by someone good, if you do that any rim-hub choice you make will last a long time...

L8R
Buck

Aaroneous
09-27-2004, 02:08 PM
Ok, I'm gonna take advantage of the ridiculously low prices for Deore disc wheels...
Run away! Run Away!! Dude, I got Deore disc/WTB wheels on my new bike this year, and those Deore hubs suck monkey balls! I'm about your weight, and the freewheel crumbled within a month of 3x-a-week riding... When I took the hub apart to replace the freewheel body, there was already a bunch of crud in the bearings! Why? Because there's no seal at all! Not even one little o-ring! And the tolerances are so loose there's nothing to stop dirt from violating your pretty little bearings at will... Go for the XTs...

bigwheel
09-27-2004, 02:08 PM
Dan, I'm not familiar with Singletrack rims, but can personally vouch for the RhynoLites. Begin a 235# clydesdale that falls a lot, I can say that they have held up remarkably well.

On one of my many falls off of the *&%#$!! leb camelback, I introduced a hefty twist into my back wheel. So, I loosened the brake and nursed it through the rest of the lap. By the time I was back in the parking lot, a miracle had happened. The wheel had healed itself back to a usable form! After a couple more weeks of riding, it was back to almost brand new. I never even had to true it.

I don't know about weight. When I consider my bike+rider weight, the few extra ounces aren't even worth considering.

BTW, if you are building new wheels and worried about stiffness, consider using 36-hole, rather than 32 or 28.

danger!
09-27-2004, 02:16 PM
Run away! Run Away!! Dude, I got Deore disc/WTB wheels on my new bike this year, and those Deore hubs suck monkey balls! I'm about your weight, and the freewheel crumbled within a month of 3x-a-week riding... When I took the hub apart to replace the freewheel body, there was already a bunch of crud in the bearings! Why? Because there's no seal at all! Not even one little o-ring! And the tolerances are so loose there's nothing to stop dirt from violating your pretty little bearings at will... Go for the XTs...

Ah, you got the OEM Deore hubs. Do not buy anything with those hubs! Make sure they are the M525 hubs, they are much better...

I am leaning toward the XTs though.

danger!
09-27-2004, 02:23 PM
Dan, I'm not familiar with Singletrack rims, but can personally vouch for the RhynoLites. Begin a 235# clydesdale that falls a lot, I can say that they have held up remarkably well.

On one of my many falls off of the *&%#$!! leb camelback, I introduced a hefty twist into my back wheel. So, I loosened the brake and nursed it through the rest of the lap. By the time I was back in the parking lot, a miracle had happened. The wheel had healed itself back to a usable form! After a couple more weeks of riding, it was back to almost brand new. I never even had to true it.

I don't know about weight. When I consider my bike+rider weight, the few extra ounces aren't even worth considering.

BTW, if you are building new wheels and worried about stiffness, consider using 36-hole, rather than 32 or 28.

Did you pay extra for the self-truing option? :D

Thanks for the input, seems like I can't go wrong with the Rhyno's.

bigwheel
09-27-2004, 04:45 PM
Did you pay extra for the self-truing option?
Maybe.

I usually lace my own wheels, but this time I had the LBS do it. The guy (Adam@Penn) did a really nice job.