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nigel
08-30-2004, 09:20 PM
Ok, here goes the Terrace Oaks trail conditions thread! Scratch em down as you see it!

Today Monday August 30-- Trail was dry to the bone, not too dusty, loose on the usual corners. I'd say it was dang near perfect conditions today to ride at Terrace!

nigel
09-06-2004, 07:41 PM
Labor Day Monday the sixth! Trail was dry as a bone, even after all that rain it held up great! The normal wet corners in the singletrack were holding still as well with no puddles!

bigwheel
09-14-2004, 08:47 AM
Got in a ride yesterday (9/13 4pm) before trail work. The trail was in excellent condition. However, it rained last night, so conditions may have changed.

I also took the liberty to check out (read: poach) the new sections where the dingo had finished. They are already firm and rideable, but still need finshing work to get rid of twigs/stumps and knock off the shoulders.

The final section that we cleared last night will be great, with a nice wooded switchback climbing the big hill. There was some grumbling (by me) about how Tim routed the new trail through some of the tougher-to-cut areas, but once we got through the brush, we could see that the new trail is a good one and will flow nicely.

Terrace Oaks is already a nice trail, and has a lot of potential. If you like leb's dream and dream-II trails, then you will probably like what is being done at Terrace.

Depending on turnout, (assuming Tim and Dale can get in with the dingos), we are one evening of finishing work away from having all of the new sections open. So, if you can spare the time next Monday (9/20), your help will be greatly appreciated.

Tim Wegner
09-14-2004, 03:50 PM
Bob

I learned from Mike Riter that most times the best for the trail to be routed is through the ugliest pile of brush that you can find. Something about trail appreciation or something like that. Also if God has something great hidden under the pile of brush we need to get at it. Should have seen where I routed some of the new trail planned for the river bottoms!!!
TW

nigel
09-25-2004, 04:23 PM
25 Sept Saturday

Trail was very nice today, a few wet spots around some corners in the second set of singletrack, but all in all great for the Cannondale test ride day! Starting to get a bit overgrown again though, but the season is coming to an end so when things start to die off we'll clear em out.

FSSS
09-27-2004, 09:08 PM
Is there an updated map of Terrace Oaks?

Haven't been down to ride it in a month or 2, and I'm kinda missin' it.

bigwheel
09-28-2004, 08:39 AM
We had about 7 people for trail work, and made good progress. THANKS GUYS:banana:

I was the only one with bike+lights, but with a bit of peer pressure, I decided to ride anyway, and am glad I did.

The trail is in good shape, othere than the one tree down. There is starting to be a path around the tree. Maybe we can drop it in place, and turn it into another obstacle.

The new sections 2 and 3 are in decent shape, but the rock crossing at the top will need a day or two to pack down a bit more. It will probably be another week before the first new section is officially opened. We will also have to do a bit more finishing work on the other sections in order for them to shed the water properly.

There is a big skid mark on one of the downhills. That was from me hallucinating with cheap lights.:scream: While bombing the second downhill, I could have sworn that I had wandered off the trail and was heading for a big tree. Turned out to just be the white outline of the trail on the next uphill.

Anyway, leb is a nice trail for intermediate night riding.

bigwheel
09-28-2004, 08:44 AM
Is there an updated map of Terrace Oaks? Haven't been down to ride it in a month or 2, and I'm kinda missin' it.
Not that I know of. The trail flows right into the 3 new sections, so you won't miss them. The first one will be another week before it is ready. Doug or Tim can correct me, but I think that the new sections total about .7 miles.

nigel
10-04-2004, 08:58 PM
Did a lil night ride tonight with Bob after trailwork and the trail is in spectacular shape! Just a lil work left and we're done for the year!

nigel
10-11-2004, 08:39 PM
Monday Oct 11....

4 new segments opened up! They are right after the old uphill at the start of the trail. It may be a little soft for a few days, but from the way the other sections settled in this one will be spot on in a week or less if we get some water! I walked the rest of the trail as well earlier and everything looked just dandy. So give the new sections a couple days to harden up and it'll be fine. Till then, if you have not ridden them go ride and post how they are!

D

nigel
10-15-2004, 09:25 AM
Well I got in before it rained this morning......pretty leafy out to say the least! the new sections are holding up quite nice. I can already see some things that are going to need a little care in the spring though. We really just need some good hard rain and lots of riders on em more than anything though!

Just in case folks wanna know.... the first re-route is .12 mile/second re-route .15 mile/third re-route .13 mile The current total for the trail with the "x" section is 2.48 miles

D

nigel
10-16-2004, 07:27 PM
So we got leafs leafs and more leafs at Terrace right now! To all those that ride Terrace here and again i have a question. I've been riding it a lot of late and the leafs dont slow me down or bother me at all, however i can see where they can hinder the riding of others.

Soooo the question is.....would you guys like me to head out and rake em off?

If so, id appreciate a couple helpers, it'll go quick and we'll do it when its dry so they pull off easy. But just let me know, otherwise i might leave em, since they actually are not "that" bad as of yet.

Douglas

Tim Wegner
10-16-2004, 09:52 PM
Doug

MORC has a back pack leaf blower if you decide the leaves MUST go. One year we blew the leaves off of leb but I don't think anyone does it anymore. Ask John if he removes leaves. See ya tomorrow, That one section trail we are working on really ROCKS don't it!!.
TW

gopherhockey
10-16-2004, 10:52 PM
This debate definitely comes up each year... leave em' or blow em'... the last 2 years I've done it at Lebanon and the year before Dale did it, so 3 years in a row at Leb. Much of it is due to land manager agreements to keep the trail clear and safe. The debate about whats better for the trail continues - but what we've found is that getting rid of at least *some* helps us get on the trail earlier in the spring, keeps log piles from deteriorating faster, and is much safer for the beginner and novice riders (or night riders). We also know it helps trail creep from happening - this really becomes a problem at Leb once the trail dissappears.

Having said all that, you might not need or want to do this at Terrace, but the backpack blower is in my garage and I will probably be using it on parts of Lebanon in maybe another week when the majority of the leaves are down. (then we can also do some GPS stuff!!!!)

Maybe if a few are willing to help out we could hit both trails in the next week or two.

[For those with a contrary opinion, please just keep it zipped this year. It has nothing to do with challenge but everything to do with safety and trail maintenance. We have to think of more than just ourselves on this topic... I too like riding in leaves, but I like making the land manager happy and keeping our trail better maintained even more. You don't have to help, but you also don't need to pick on those that do this nasty bit of trail work each year...]

Didn't mean to hijak your thread, but since it has come up a few times I thought I'd address it. It would be much easier this year with multiple people helping.

gmargolf
10-19-2004, 05:49 PM
No need in blowing the leaves off, the city shutdown Terrace Oaks for the year????

ryno lite
10-19-2004, 06:32 PM
I was wondering when they were going to do that. They love to close it about 3 months before they need to. What a pain in the butt. I wanted to check out the reroutes before they closed it!

FSSS
10-19-2004, 09:35 PM
I wanted to check out the reroutes before they closed it!Ditto.

:cryin:

gmargolf
10-20-2004, 06:45 AM
The re routes are great!!! Would of been nice to have alot more people out there riding on the new trails to establish them more. Ah well, see ya next May!!!:hit:

nigel
10-20-2004, 07:27 AM
Yes Terrace is closed for the season. But they actually let the closing date happen a little later (its usually Oct 1st) So please DO NOT RIDE THE TRAILS until next spring when its open and not all wet and slippy! I know a lot of ya wanna check out the re-routes, sooooo id suggest hitting em up in the winter with some snowshoes, ill be out there quite a bit myself!


Douglas

ryno lite
10-21-2004, 01:10 AM
They sure are generous with the closing date!

Tim Wegner
10-21-2004, 06:22 AM
Maybe now that MORC is working with the trails and doing the maintenance this might be a good time to approach the city of burnsville about extending the riding time at this park. MORC might want to see if we can have some input into the opening and closing time like we do at Lebanon and some of the other parks.

TW

nigel
10-21-2004, 07:32 AM
Maybe now that MORC is working with the trails and doing the maintenance this might be a good time to approach the city of burnsville about extending the riding time at this park. MORC might want to see if we can have some input into the opening and closing time like we do at Lebanon and some of the other parks.

TWIn the works Tim! Might be attending one of the neighborhood meetings over there representing MORC with John Dahl. I would like to meet the folks we see while we work on the trail and let the others in on what we do there and why the trails are important to the community. Also explain our process and reasoning of building/re-routing and reclaiming that which we change for the better of the trail environment ect....

If anyone reading this lives in the Terrace community i strongly urge you to attend your meetings to give us cyclists a healthy voice for our trail systems. I do not live in the area so your voice is much stronger than mine is!

If i cannot attend i will be sending a letter to the meeting in my abscence so if you live there please attend!

Douglas

nigel
10-24-2004, 04:24 PM
Boy am i frustrated!

So i head to Terrace today after Theo trail work to take some pix of the new re-routes and check things out.

DO NOT RIDE THE TRAILS!!!! THEY ARE CLOSED FOR THE SEASON!!!

DO NOT RIDE THE HIKING/SKI TRAILS!!!!!

I saw 2 bikers while i was walking the trails, nicely scolded them, they packed it up after i saw em.

The thing that really got me was that someone went through the entire trail and about every 50 feet or so pulled branches ect.. across the trail for the entire length of the trail! They went and tore apart all the areas that were setup to close the "old" trails that were re-routed, as well as the areas that were cleared from the storm damage, how do i know this, well i put them where they were!! They also cut, yes they CUT down LIVE trees to block the trail as well. Some of the things they pulled out had to have took more than 2 people, i barely was able to move them out of the way alone.

If you are doing this please stop! This is not a proper way to close a trail, this causes damage, more than you know!
--you cut live trees, thats an obvious one
--the time involved for me to clear it, grrrrrrrrr
--those that are unfortunatly poaching the trail are riding around those obstacles not over them or moving them, so you are causing small re-routes, we setup and build the trails to be sustainable to good for the enviroment around them, these "ride arounds" are hurting the flow of water and will cause erossion.

I hope this was all done accidental but im thinking not. Whoever did this took a lot of time in doing so, it took me about 2 hours to clear it fully and there is still more. I guess i dont know what else to say about this, im just really disappointed in the whole thing. At least Wirth was fun!

Douglas

ryno lite
10-24-2004, 09:33 PM
Better report it to the city. I'd say that comes under the heading of vandalism. I know the world is full of mostly great people, it just stinks that we have to share it with the destructive idiots!

gmargolf
10-24-2004, 11:38 PM
What stupid idiots. Doug, we haven't met, but I live about 2 miles from Oaks, went there a ton this year and know the trail like the back of my hand and all the excellent work you did these last few months. If there is anything I can do, let me know. I have Tuesday off, and will go walk through the trails to see whats up. If anybody is riding the trail, they are going to wish they weren't there!!!


When are they having these meetings with the city of Burnsville??

crux
10-26-2004, 07:54 AM
Don't quite understand why the trail closes so early in the season. Rode from my home yesterday only to be denied upon arriving in the lot.

I think that we will need to do some serious trail work next season to get this trail back into decent shape especially if we have people doing damage such as cutting down live trees across the trail. Of course we can use those next season to build with, if we do not lose the trail all together because of the vandals. Would like to see some development on Terrance to take some load off of Leb and have a second viable option to ride in this part of town.


Boy am i frustrated!

So i head to Terrace today after Theo trail work to take some pix of the new re-routes and check things out.

DO NOT RIDE THE TRAILS!!!! THEY ARE CLOSED FOR THE SEASON!!!

DO NOT RIDE THE HIKING/SKI TRAILS!!!!!

I saw 2 bikers while i was walking the trails, nicely scolded them, they packed it up after i saw em.

The thing that really got me was that someone went through the entire trail and about every 50 feet or so pulled branches ect.. across the trail for the entire length of the trail! They went and tore apart all the areas that were setup to close the "old" trails that were re-routed, as well as the areas that were cleared from the storm damage, how do i know this, well i put them where they were!! They also cut, yes they CUT down LIVE trees to block the trail as well. Some of the things they pulled out had to have took more than 2 people, i barely was able to move them out of the way alone.

If you are doing this please stop! This is not a proper way to close a trail, this causes damage, more than you know!
--you cut live trees, thats an obvious one
--the time involved for me to clear it, grrrrrrrrr
--those that are unfortunatly poaching the trail are riding around those obstacles not over them or moving them, so you are causing small re-routes, we setup and build the trails to be sustainable to good for the enviroment around them, these "ride arounds" are hurting the flow of water and will cause erossion.

I hope this was all done accidental but im thinking not. Whoever did this took a lot of time in doing so, it took me about 2 hours to clear it fully and there is still more. I guess i dont know what else to say about this, im just really disappointed in the whole thing. At least Wirth was fun!

Douglas

gopherhockey
10-26-2004, 07:56 AM
The trail closures always seem early and they don't open the trail until May 1 regardless of the weather.

Perhaps if we felt it was worth it we could talk with the city about being good stewards and helping them with openings and closings... perhaps they might be willing to be more flexible. Something to think about....

nigel
10-26-2004, 10:57 AM
Don't quite understand why the trail closes so early in the season. Rode from my home yesterday only to be denied upon arriving in the lot.

I think that we will need to do some serious trail work next season to get this trail back into decent shape especially if we have people doing damage such as cutting down live trees across the trail. Of course we can use those next season to build with, if we do not lose the trail all together because of the vandals. Would like to see some development on Terrance to take some load off of Leb and have a second viable option to ride in this part of town.
Its all in the works, its just going to take time :)

D

tgann
04-14-2005, 04:02 PM
Does anyone know when Terrace Oaks may open this year??

nigel
04-14-2005, 04:45 PM
Does anyone know when Terrace Oaks may open this year??

Im waiting on the official date.....I'll post up as soon as i hear.

gmargolf
04-18-2005, 03:09 PM
Last year they opened the last week in April, but walking the trail in the last week it is ready to go right now with the good weather we have had. There are a few tracks though where people have gone out when they are not suppose to. Doug, are you planning on future trail work out there like last year and when???

nigel
04-18-2005, 03:12 PM
Trail work will be hapening at Terrace this year just as last. There is much to finish from what we started last year, mainly reclamation. Then its on to some more re-routes and so on. We wont be doing anything "official" there until after May 1st, they need all the tools can at Steeplechase and Theo so we wont have much until after that. Ill post up as soon as trailwork starts though!

Douglas

nigel
04-18-2005, 05:20 PM
May 1st is the Official opeing date at Terrace Oaks!!!!!!!!!!! So i know its only a couple weeks away, but please stay off the trails until then.

Thanks

Douglas

syntaxjunkie
04-18-2005, 06:22 PM
Good news, Doug. Thanks for sharing.

ppgc
04-29-2005, 01:28 AM
May 1st is the Official opeing date at Terrace Oaks!!!!!!!!!!! So i know its only a couple weeks away, but please stay off the trails until then.

Thanks

Douglas

12:01AM on May 1st? :crazy2: I am anxious to get out there... Getting so close...

:banana:

-pete

Kiecker
05-04-2005, 10:03 PM
I rode Terrace Oaks after work today. The parking lot was full of cars but mostly everyone was there playing on the fields. I think I was the only biker there. Yep just me and 5 deer.

Overall the trail is in decent shape. Very dry, with old fall leaf coverage in spots. I hadn't been to this trail a long time so I had to figure out how it ran. There appears to be two signs down in the opening between the sections of single track that are old and misplaced. There's one other sign that should be moved back about 30' for it to make sense. This sign is located just after the turn off to the gravel downhill section that leads to the expert loop. There is a cross country ski trail sign there but this sign is after the turn that you should take. If the sign was either moved back or in combination with the ski sign it would make more sense. It wasn't until I rode the trail backwards that I figured out where I was suppose to be at this intersection.

There's definite evidence of prior trail work but like the review says this trail could use some more. There was only one spot that my 34x18 combo was difficult. It was on the uphill switch back that ends with a log climb on the expert loop. I really liked trying this section but kept twisting my foot out of the pedal which wasn't helping. There one other right hand 180 that's really fun about 1/3 the way through from the start.

Like the review in the trail section says it is a short course and is something different then Leb. Hopefully with some trail work this will become even better and maybe even longer :) Laps took about 12 minutes to complete.

Another weird thing I found it this trail seems to climb more then descend but for some reason I kept ending up in the same spot so it's probably just me :)

ryno lite
05-06-2005, 12:13 AM
Rode Terrace tonight for the first time in a couple of years and I really like the new reroutes! Thanks for all the work done by the Terrace Crew! It was in perfect shape until it started raining on me. Should dry fast though (it was bone dry). I know people were bitching that the trail was ruined, but I love the changes and thought it flowed great. It's short but fun and you get the place pretty much to yourself!

Steeds82
05-06-2005, 12:18 AM
Another weird thing I found it this trail seems to climb more then descend but for some reason I kept ending up in the same spot so it's probably just me :)

Me too ha...It took me a few times to figure it out. :laugh:

ppgc
05-06-2005, 08:49 AM
Me too ha...It took me a few times to figure it out. :laugh:

Same here. I was like I know I just saw that rock and closed uphill... :)

bigwheel
05-06-2005, 09:35 AM
Another weird thing I found it this trail seems to climb more then descend

We still have a lot of work to do at Terrace. Unfortunately, we only had time to make uphill sections so far. After 3 laps, you will have gained about 200 ft of elevation. If you were allowed to ride it backwards, you could pretty much coast the whole thing.

homebrewbiker
05-06-2005, 09:44 AM
We still have a lot of work to do at Terrace. Unfortunately, we only had time to make uphill sections so far. After 3 laps, you will have gained about 200 ft of elevation. If you were allowed to ride it backwards, you could pretty much coast the whole thing.

That's why the "Expert" section is fun, you get a nice downhill towards the end, and you cut out part of the XC trail.

syntaxjunkie
05-08-2005, 05:40 PM
Observations about (and only tangentially related to) Terrace Oaks on Sunday, May 8, 2005:

1. Much to my relief, I can easily fit my bike in the trunk of my Audi A6, with the seats folded down and the front wheel removed. That didn't stop me from putting a towel down first, just to make sure not a single drop of dirt, grease or whatever besmirched its lovely interior. Have I mentioned that I love this car?

2. First lap: Trail just barely tacky. Held fine in the corners and didn't stick to my tires. No standing water that I could see. Must be something to them there IMBA standards after all. I am therefore unable to fault trail conditions for my insufficient bunnyhop of the old, dead tree that you ride over just after coming up and out of the new trail through the valley by the wetland/swamp. Back wheel goes up, forearm meets tree. Pain, Charles, I believe you two have already met.

3. Second lap. Was just ready to drop into the woods at the beginning of the trail where it crosses the hiking trail exit. Encountered a middle-aged couple and their two dogs (not leashed) walking the wrong way (toward me) on the wrong trail (the mountain bike trail), each carrying a sizable rock freshly plucked from somewhere along said trail (a major no-no). I stopped to let them pass, but didn't say anything. They were way in the wrong, but they also had dogs and rocks. On the bright side, cleaned the trail despite persistent throbbing in forearm (see #2). Decided not to push (lack of) luck and called it a day.

4. While unloading my bike in my driveway, I saw my neighbor's cat, a stealthy calico, slink across the yard in full hunt mode. Several minutes later, I learned that rabbits can, in fact, scream.

ppgc
05-08-2005, 07:04 PM
I am therefore unable to fault trail conditions for my insufficient bunnyhop of the old, dead tree that you ride over just after coming up and out of the new trail through the valley by the wetland/swamp. Back wheel goes up, forearm meets tree. Pain, Charles, I believe you two have already met.

I assume you are talking about that tight right turn with the 8" up? I had some issues with that too. :)

Several minutes later, I learned that rabbits can, in fact, scream.

They are loud too arn't they? My dog used to get them once in a while...

-pete

jeffgude
05-30-2005, 05:41 PM
Trail in excellent condition today. No wet sections. Really nice reroutes Doug!

nigel
05-30-2005, 07:29 PM
So having only ridden my bike once this season *sighs* yeah yeah i know, but i bought a house so im busy, I have not had a chance to ride Terrace, just walk it quite a bit.

Jeff and gang, how do the new sections "feel" under tire? Are they not smoothed out enough? Last fall they felt like there was a little too many rolling bumps, they might smooth out with riding. Not sure, I liked it, but i want everyone to like it, so fess up folks.

D

jeffgude
05-30-2005, 09:12 PM
I rode on my rigid SS and the bumps were not an issue. Much smoother than Lebanon.

nigel
06-13-2005, 07:25 PM
Excellent, until it started to rain :embarass: Stay off them trails until they are dry, if it only rains tonight they should be ready by late afternoon Tuesday, seeing as how they shed water nicely and dry fairly quick, depending on rain amount that is.

Also DO NOT RIDE THE HIKING TRAILS!!!!! Walked them tonight during the park meeting and the spot we went to was all muddy and covered in tire tracks, this area was clearly not for riding and properly signed, and after looking at it, not really any type of shortcut or fun to ride, so STAY OFF THE HIKING TRAILS!!!

Douglas

seberly
06-19-2005, 09:48 PM
Rode Terrace today - sweeeeeet! Ah the memories.

JHM
06-24-2005, 12:16 PM
I rode TO on Thursday night. The new rock areas look great. The rock garden at the top of the hill is worth all the effort to get the big rock extracted and in place.

There are a couple of trees down on the first half and one in the expert loop. I watched that one send a rider into the woods, it's small, but it is straddling the trail a few inches above the ground.

The same guy who wiped on the tree bit it again on the switchback and the on the following log crossing:hit: . He was with a group of four or five. They all exited the trail to the north of the hockey rink on the short paved trail. Maybe the signage need some work?

bigwheel
06-24-2005, 01:11 PM
I rode TO on Thursday night. The new rock areas look great. The rock garden at the top of the hill is worth all the effort to get the big rock extracted and in place.

There are a couple of trees down on the first half and one in the expert loop. I watched that one send a rider into the woods, it's small, but it is straddling the trail a few inches above the ground.

The same guy who wiped on the tree bit it again on the switchback and the on the following log crossing:hit: . He was with a group of four or five. They all exited the trail to the north of the hockey rink on the short paved trail. Maybe the signage need some work?

Hey John,

Thanks for the update. I'll plan to bring my chainsaw on Tuesday, and get rid of the trees if they are still there. I wonder if Doug sweet talked the ladies of the park board to okay the log ride??

nigel
06-24-2005, 03:46 PM
Hey John,

Thanks for the update. I'll plan to bring my chainsaw on Tuesday, and get rid of the trees if they are still there. I wonder if Doug sweet talked the ladies of the park board to okay the log ride??

Awaiting reply.............

dogsdirtbike24
06-24-2005, 05:28 PM
The same guy who wiped on the tree bit it again on the switchback and the on the following log crossing:hit: . He was with a group of four or five. They all exited the trail to the north of the hockey rink on the short paved trail. Maybe the signage need some work?

My hubby and I rode Terrace Oaks for the first time today. Ummm we went that way too. Which way are you supposed to go? I didnt see any signs but there were a few options.

nigel
06-24-2005, 06:11 PM
My hubby and I rode Terrace Oaks for the first time today. Ummm we went that way too. Which way are you supposed to go? I didnt see any signs but there were a few options.

I am going to be working on getting better sinage for the exit area, but essentially you exit the same way you enter. At the top of the hill where you come out of the trail, when you would ride to the right to do another lap, just go left and that first 50 feet or that you came in on, is also the exit.

D

nigel
07-05-2005, 09:16 PM
Trail conditions were excellent today. The soil was nice and soft, just tacky enough to grab your rubber and not stick to it. I was running about 35psi and loved every minute of it. Nothing in the way cept a few weeds growing back to fast so get out and enjoy before it rains again!

devo kenivel
07-25-2005, 12:56 PM
what type of work has been done to this place? is this the same crew that worked on leb and the same style?? i used to ride here all the time and liked it but just found it too small and a little overgrown.

Tim Wegner
07-25-2005, 01:20 PM
Terrace is maintained by the MORC the same group that built Lebanon, Salem Hills, Battle Creek, River Bottoms, Theo Wirth etc. I think the style of trail at Lebanon has more challenge than Terrace but the goal is the same on both trails. #1 priority is sustainablity. #2 fun and challenge.

TW

devo kenivel
07-25-2005, 03:01 PM
thanks. hopefully it'll be as worth while as leb.

LightWeight
08-20-2005, 11:38 AM
T.O. was great this morning. The new armoring worked well as it wasn't very wet down there at all. Everyone get out and ride - it's a beautiful day!!!

syntaxjunkie
08-20-2005, 11:44 AM
cool. maybe i'll make it a leb-terrace double feature...

Don Youngdahl
08-23-2005, 11:49 AM
Did two quick laps around Terrace Oaks about 5:00 PM yesterday, & conditions were great. Didn't see a soul on the trail or in the parking lot. That says something about the numerous riding opportunities in the twin cities, that a neat little trail like Terrace would be virtually empty on a fine summer evening.

Don Youngdahl

JHM
08-27-2005, 06:36 PM
I rode Terrace about 10:30 Saturday morning. The mud holes near the hockey rink did not indicate the conditions. The trail was tacky, with no muddy spots except for the recent spot we armored, it needs to settle in a little. Even the new up hill section was in good shape. It doesn't look like there have been many riders. Someone rode it Friday night and left some tracks, but no real damage. Also some weed trimming would help.

nigel
08-28-2005, 03:51 PM
Thanks for the update John! We'll clear the brush Tuesday.

nigel
08-31-2005, 03:56 PM
Great conditions last night, nothing too loose (after we cleared it) dry throughout the entire trail, at least until it rains today :( it sure looks like it from where i am. A few ruts in the gully x-ing so make sure and stay off the trail after the rain, since thats the only way those ones could have gotten there.

JHM
09-08-2005, 01:24 PM
I rode TO on Tuesday afternoon. The trail was in good shape.

The recent armoring is working, it still holds some water and it needs to be extended 6 feet or so in each direction.

There is a tree down on the old single track, just down-trail from where the service road intersects the trail and meets the meadow on the way to the armored spot. (I have been thinking about that descrption for two days, I hope it makes sense). It looks like a two person job for safety sake. Half of the tree is on the trail, the other half is hanging up on other trees.

bigwheel
09-08-2005, 02:21 PM
There is a tree down on the old single track, just down-trail from where the service road intersects the trail and meets the meadow on the way to the armored spot. (I have been thinking about that descrption for two days, I hope it makes sense). It looks like a two person job for safety sake. Half of the tree is on the trail, the other half is hanging up on other trees.

Sounds like the way to get there is to walk into the armored spot and go left, up the trail.

I'll throw my saw and a rope in the van on Saturday. I might skip out from the MORC summit Saturday morning after the leb ride and go get it.

In addition to safety, it might be nice to have a second person to help me horse the logs around and clean up the brush.

JHM
09-08-2005, 03:18 PM
Hi Bob,

I guess the directions weren't perfect.

You want to go down the trail (left) where the service rode crosses the single track. To the right (up the trail), is where we harvested the rocks for the recent armoring.

This is the old rooty section, the tree is just past the ~180° right turn.

Ogre
09-08-2005, 03:20 PM
Give me a time, I plan on riding either TO or LH Sat.
I can help before or after my ride.
But not at 7:30 AM!!!!! with the MORC crew.

nigel
09-08-2005, 04:09 PM
Bob, i'll join ya, thanks for the heads up John.

Don Youngdahl
09-08-2005, 08:07 PM
There is a tree down on the old single track, just down-trail from where the service road intersects the trail and meets the meadow on the way to the armored spot. .............

I'll likely cut it out with my chain saw when I'm in the area early to mid-afternoon on Friday. If it's a good day for riding and there is a lot of cut-down stuff to clear, I'll likely leave it for other volunteers, namely the next riders that come along.

Bob, if you guys want to make sure it's taken care of, give me a shout on my cell after 4:00 PM on Friday, or I'll see you at the summit friday evening. 651-276-8622

Don Y

bigwheel
09-09-2005, 08:24 AM
I'll likely cut it out with my chain saw when I'm in the area early to mid-afternoon on Friday. If it's a good day for riding and there is a lot of cut-down stuff to clear, I'll likely leave it for other volunteers, namely the next riders that come along.

Bob, if you guys want to make sure it's taken care of, give me a shout on my cell after 4:00 PM on Friday, or I'll see you at the summit friday evening. 651-276-8622

Don Y

Don, we'll see you tonight at the summit. If you don't get a chance at the tree today, we'll take care of it AFTER the am Leb ride tomorrow. I don't think it will be much work. Just 15 minutes for 2 people.

Thanks, Bob S.

crux
09-10-2005, 12:36 PM
Don, we'll see you tonight at the summit. If you don't get a chance at the tree today, we'll take care of it AFTER the am Leb ride tomorrow. I don't think it will be much work. Just 15 minutes for 2 people.

Thanks, Bob S.

That tree is a perfect oppertunity to add a much needed technical aspect to Terrance. I would not cut it out, just shore it up a bit with some additional logs and call it good. It should be an easy technical any whay once you round that corner.

bigwheel
09-11-2005, 02:19 PM
That tree is a perfect oppertunity to add a much needed technical aspect to Terrance. I would not cut it out, just shore it up a bit with some additional logs and call it good. It should be an easy technical any whay once you round that corner.
Don went in and got the tree on Friday night. Thanks Don :banana:

I didn't see the tree, so I can only comment in general. But...

Terrace Oaks is supposed to be an intermediate trail, where many of the riders are beginning mountain bikers riding comfort bikes. Anything technical, and we are supposed to get approval. Doug has been trying for many weeks to get approval for a log ride that is waiting to be built. The perfect tree is already laying down in the perfect place. Still, we are waiting on approval almost 2 months later.

Last fall, a tree went down and we dug it into the ground. The tree wasn't very big.' maybe 10 inches diameter. Doug and I dug it over half way into the ground, making it a no-brainer to cross. Yet, if you look there this summer, you will find that people have alreay worn in a bypass around the log.

Even at Leb, we are seeing ride-arounds for many of the obstacles, and some guy cominging in with a shovel and building ramps on the log crossings.

crux
09-11-2005, 11:10 PM
We may need to give us looking for more technical challenges options. By leaving the trail as is and building more technically challenging options this may possibly be a way of having our cake and eating it too. Such as the large rock and following jump at Leb.

Yep, I’ve seen the log at Terrance and have considered shaving the top on several occasions, but would like to do so with support and authorization as not to risk putting any of our trails at risk.

Don went in and got the tree on Friday night. Thanks Don :banana:

I didn't see the tree, so I can only comment in general. But...

Terrace Oaks is supposed to be an intermediate trail, where many of the riders are beginning mountain bikers riding comfort bikes. Anything technical, and we are supposed to get approval. Doug has been trying for many weeks to get approval for a log ride that is waiting to be built. The perfect tree is already laying down in the perfect place. Still, we are waiting on approval almost 2 months later.

Last fall, a tree went down and we dug it into the ground. The tree wasn't very big.' maybe 10 inches diameter. Doug and I dug it over half way into the ground, making it a no-brainer to cross. Yet, if you look there this summer, you will find that people have alreay worn in a bypass around the log.

Even at Leb, we are seeing ride-arounds for many of the obstacles, and some guy cominging in with a shovel and building ramps on the log crossings.

bigwheel
09-27-2005, 09:35 PM
Tuesday night, Sept 27

Good condition. The only wet spot was in the lawn next to the parking lot.

Go ride Terrace before it closes for the season.

LightWeight
09-27-2005, 11:05 PM
Go ride Terrace before it closes for the season.

Speaking of that... When is the official close date this year?

nigel
05-08-2006, 10:29 PM
Please stay off the trails until they have had proper time to dry out. Very wet out there!

nigel
05-16-2006, 04:39 PM
Tues May 16-----A little tacky but extremely ready to ride! Saw a few (counted at least 20+ diff riders) out there this afternoon while I was cleaning up form the storm damage. Trail is clean, great for riding.

Thanks to those who stopped an gave me a hand, good luck on Sat to those few that were getting redy for the race, and a big thanks to those that went to Leb saw the fences and came over to Terrace:banana: rather than poaching. Nice to meet a few new faces.

trompete
05-16-2006, 05:23 PM
Will be coming over there very soon. Glad to see everything's ready to go. Watch for a 6'3" guy with a black helmet and red 2006 rockhopper

bikeoutback
05-16-2006, 05:34 PM
I read this correctly, there is a trail legally open in the metro area... well depending on rain tonight and if I mow the lawn or not I may get a ride in. :banana:

nigel
05-16-2006, 09:36 PM
I read this correctly, there is a trail legally open in the metro area... well depending on rain tonight and if I mow the lawn or not I may get a ride in. :banana:

Heck yeah its open! Unless it rains a ton tonight itll be fine Wed all day.

nigel
05-17-2006, 03:00 PM
Wed 5/17.....another great day to out, the trail is in sweet shape once again.

bigwheel
05-17-2006, 05:14 PM
Thanks for the update, Doug. When we were chasing people out of Leb last night, we sent a bunch over there. I've got to get there for a ride myself.

Did we ever get permission for the huge log ride?

LightWeight
05-21-2006, 05:26 PM
EXCELLENT!!

http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/515/joel_down_small.jpg

http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/515/joel_drop_small.jpg

http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/515/aaron_peek_small.jpg

http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/515/aaron_down_small.jpg

http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/515/joel_walking_small.jpg

Guess I tried one too many lap... :embarass:

nigel
05-21-2006, 05:30 PM
Sweetness! Looks like im heading out for a ride.

LightWeight
05-21-2006, 08:14 PM
Forgot to add this one. Some local wildlife were enjoying the day as well...

http://www.tcbomb.com/images/t_o_deer2.jpg

jswing
05-22-2006, 09:11 AM
Always deer out there - last week when I was out I scared one up and he took off parallel to me and then disappeared; then I met up with him again literally on the trail and scared us both silly!!! No more than 10 ft from each other. The best TO deer story I've heard was when an old roommate of mine was on the downhill in your first set of pictures a deer ran out on the trail next to him (says he could have pet it) and then ran next to him till they got to the bottom, then it got just ahead of him and cut in front of him into the woods. All that happened right behind me as I was going up hill. He was so shook up he sat out the next lap but he still talks about it today 5 years later.

bigwheel
05-22-2006, 04:59 PM
Finally rode Terrace for the first time this year. Excellent! The new sections look great, now that the woods have had a chance to grow back to the trail.

I thought I was going to break my single-speed chain climbing the X hill after the sharp left. Great fun!

We need to get rid of that half-down tree at the top of the X-section climb. It forces you to cut the turn too sharp going into the gnarley log.


While I was riding, I had a thought: TWO HOURS OF HONOR AT TERRACE OAKS

Sort-of an abbreviated version of 12-hours at leb. I was thinking that we'd charge $25 for non-MORC riders (zero for members), and strictly limit it to the first 100 entries. We could put up the MORC tent at the loop beginning/end (top of the hill) and have a list to sign when you go by.

nigel
05-22-2006, 05:58 PM
We need to get rid of that half-down tree at the top of the X-section climb. It forces you to cut the turn too sharp going into the gnarley log.


Huge changes on paper for that entire part of the trail, so for now it will stay as is, unless............................................ :crazy2:

LightWeight
05-22-2006, 08:50 PM
While I was riding, I had a thought: TWO HOURS OF HONOR AT TERRACE OAKS

Sort-of an abbreviated version of 12-hours at leb. I was thinking that we'd charge $25 for non-MORC riders (zero for members), and strictly limit it to the first 100 entries. We could put up the MORC tent at the loop beginning/end (top of the hill) and have a list to sign when you go by.

I'd be down for that! Why stop at 2 hours? I'll bet you could get pretty dizzy out there after 10 or so laps... :crazy:

syntaxjunkie
06-04-2006, 07:33 PM
This was supposed to be a post about what great shape Terrace Oaks is in. And it is in fantastic riding condition. Went out this afternoon for a few laps in the perfect weather, squadrons of dragonflies taking off from the tall grass and zig-zagging across my front tire, daring me to follow them into the woods. The trail was at its flowy, curvy best, and I had to keep reminding myself not to carry too much speed into the corners. I wanted to go, the bike wanted to go and the trail was just begging to be railed.

Like I say, this was supposed to be a post about what great shape Terrace Oaks is in. So on that note, you might want to stop reading here.

In the interest of full disclosure, I have to say that my ride ended a little earlier than planned, and rather suddenly. I was on my third lap, heading through the short expert section, right before the quick switchback climb. Took my eye off the trail for a second, the second my front wheel caught some loose gravel and washed out. Which resulted in abrupt slide straight into a tree. Which resulted in my left knee make very solid contact with something more solid than it--most likely my handlebars or my stem. Which resulted in me limping out in low gear, cursing my wandering eyes and the ever more persistent throbbing just below my knee cap.

Said throbbing is now down to a dull roar, but the swelling and stiffness around my knee are not going away. My hope is a sprain. My guess is probably some cartilage damage, possibly a chip off the top of the femur and some rather unhappy ligaments. If not for Candian over-the-counter acetaminophen and codeine, I'd be a less happy puppy than I am.

Anyway, get out and ride Terrace. Just watch for turtles and be careful around the gravel.

crux
06-04-2006, 07:45 PM
Glad to hear that your ride was going well...

Sorry about the knee hope it is some thing simple and a few nights rest will take care of it.

This was supposed to be a post about what great shape Terrace Oaks is in. And it is in fantastic riding condition. Went out this afternoon for a few laps in the perfect weather, squadrons of dragonflies taking off from the tall grass and zig-zagging across my front tire, daring me to follow them into the woods. The trail was at its flowy, curvy best, and I had to keep reminding myself not to carry too much speed into the corners. I wanted to go, the bike wanted to go and the trail was just begging to be railed.

Like I say, this was supposed to be a post about what great shape Terrace Oaks is in. So on that note, you might want to stop reading here.

In the interest of full disclosure, I have to say that my ride ended a little earlier than planned, and rather suddenly. I was on my third lap, heading through the short expert section, right before the quick switchback climb. Took my eye off the trail for a second, the second my front wheel caught some loose gravel and washed out. Which resulted in abrupt slide straight into a tree. Which resulted in my left knee make very solid contact with something more solid than it--most likely my handlebars or my stem. Which resulted in me limping out in low gear, cursing my wandering eyes and the ever more persistent throbbing just below my knee cap.

Said throbbing is now down to a dull roar, but the swelling and stiffness around my knee are not going away. My hope is a sprain. My guess is probably some cartilage damage, possibly a chip off the top of the femur and some rather unhappy ligaments. If not for Candian over-the-counter acetaminophen and codeine, I'd be a less happy puppy than I am.

Anyway, get out and ride Terrace. Just watch for turtles and be careful around the gravel.

syntaxjunkie
06-04-2006, 07:49 PM
Thanks, Andrew. That's what I'm hoping for.

waitabit
06-04-2006, 07:58 PM
I took a digger in that same spot a few weeks back, went over the handlebars and put a nice size dent in my helmet, sorry to hear about your knee.Now where can I find these OTC drugs?:crazy2:

LightWeight
06-04-2006, 08:03 PM
Also had a great ride today. Was leaving just as "Mr. Maverick" pulled in the parking lot. Sorry to hear about the crash...

syntaxjunkie
06-04-2006, 09:34 PM
I took a digger in that same spot a few weeks back, went over the handlebars and put a nice size dent in my helmet, sorry to hear about your knee.Now where can I find these OTC drugs?:crazy2:
Any Canadian pharmacy will set you up. All you gotta do is ask...

syntaxjunkie
06-04-2006, 09:36 PM
Also had a great ride today. Was leaving just as "Mr. Maverick" pulled in the parking lot. Sorry to hear about the crash...
Wow. Is that what people call me? :banana:

Sorry I didn't get a chance to say hi or go for a ride with you. Might've kept my dumb butt outta trouble. Glad you enjoyed your ride, though - 'twas a beautiful day indeed.

nigel
06-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Geeze Charles, your not supposed to crash! Sorry bout the knee big guy, that section will be getting some attention in the future. At least ya got almost 3 laps in :crazy:

syntaxjunkie
06-05-2006, 07:32 AM
Thanks, Doug. If I don't have at least one really painful wreck per season, I'm not trying hard enough. And as much as I'd like to find fault with the trail, this one's definitely all on me. Too much speed, not enough attention. I've cleaned that section uneventfully more times than I can count. Just goes to show you what can happen when you get a little cocky and start thinking too far ahead.

jeffgude
06-05-2006, 08:04 AM
Thanks, Doug. If I don't have at least one really painful wreck per season, I'm not trying hard enough.

At least this post is not accompanied by the 'bruised-and-abraded face' picture, as has been the recent trend.

syntaxjunkie
06-05-2006, 08:29 AM
At least this post is not accompanied by the 'bruised-and-abraded face' picture, as has been the recent trend.
true. if i felt like limping over to the counter and getting my camera, i could post a "still life with lumpy grapefruit, er, knee" pic. but no one wants to see that.

jswing
06-05-2006, 10:42 AM
In the interest of full disclosure, I have to say that my ride ended a little earlier than planned, and rather suddenly. I was on my third lap, heading through the short expert section, right before the quick switchback climb. Took my eye off the trail for a second, the second my front wheel caught some loose gravel and washed out. Which resulted in abrupt slide straight into a tree. Which resulted in my left knee make very solid contact with something more solid than it--most likely my handlebars or my stem. Which resulted in me limping out in low gear, cursing my wandering eyes and the ever more persistent throbbing just below my knee cap.

I bit it in the same place last week - tore open my elbow on said gravel but not any real damage - had to fetch my bike from the bottom of the hill. I was too busy preparing for the switchback and forgot about riding...

Hope you have a quick recovery!!!

syntaxjunkie
06-05-2006, 10:50 AM
thanks, jeff. today is better than yesterday. just hoping things keep heading in that direction.

everybody, get out there and get a ride in for me. :crazy2:

syntaxjunkie
06-05-2006, 09:27 PM
Next to "I love you," the three sweetest words in the English language are:

No ligament damage.

It's a better day.

nigel
06-05-2006, 09:29 PM
Next to "I love you," the three sweetest words in the English language are:

No ligament damage.

It's a better day.

Those are good words! Now get out and ride some more.....when we gunna hook up anyhow?

syntaxjunkie
06-05-2006, 09:39 PM
Those are good words! Now get out and ride some more.....when we gunna hook up anyhow?
soon would be good. i bit the bullet and put the shifters and rear derailleur on myself. yesterday was the first ride with them. THEY worked just fine. ;-) problem, as always, was the operator, not the equipment.

that said, i wouldn't mind you giving everything the once-over just to make sure i dotted the i's and crossed the t's. and i don't suppose you're interested in a set of xtr shifters and an xtr 9-speed rear derailleur?

nigel
06-05-2006, 09:45 PM
soon would be good. i bit the bullet and put the shifters and rear derailleur on myself. yesterday was the first ride with them. THEY worked just fine. ;-) problem, as always, was the operator, not the equipment.

that said, i wouldn't mind you giving everything the once-over just to make sure i dotted the i's and crossed the t's. and i don't suppose you're interested in a set of xtr shifters and an xtr 9-speed rear derailleur?

So long as its got the "r" on it im always interested :) Lemme know if your free Wed night, I have a "thing" at 5pm that will probably keep me until 8, after that im free.

D

nigel
06-05-2006, 09:56 PM
Trail conditions today were excellent folks. Nice and dry and HOT. The doubletrack is a bit loose at the bottom of the hills and on corners, but hey its class 5 *sighs*. Trailwork starting up soon so watch for it!

D

nigel
06-07-2006, 09:54 PM
6/7/06----nice and dry, getting a lil overgrown in spots (even since Mon!)which ill take care of very soon, hopefully this weekend in the a.m.

D

bowmanmark
06-10-2006, 09:37 PM
Where is Terrace Oaks in Burnsville?

LightWeight
06-11-2006, 01:56 PM
Where is Terrace Oaks in Burnsville?

Take Cliff Rd West across Hwy 77
Turn left on Kennelly Rd
The Terrace parking lot is at the end of Kennelly - can't miss it! :)

bigwheel
06-11-2006, 02:05 PM
Take Cliff Rd West across Hwy 77
Turn left on Kennelly Rd
The Terrace parking lot is at the end of Kennelly - can't miss it! :)

Here's the link to the trail guide.

http://www.morcmtb.org/trailreviews/metro/terraceoaks.shtml

The trail description is out of date, but it includes directions to get there from 35E.

trompete
06-11-2006, 08:14 PM
Trail was fast and dry tonight.

This was actually my first ride on your trail. I had a blast. The expert loop is just punishment, though. Glad to know there is a nice trail closer to home than leb.

Brent

bowmanmark
06-11-2006, 08:34 PM
Cool Thanks

Sevadari
06-11-2006, 10:21 PM
A quick shout out to the folks that take care of Terrace Oaks from the 5 of us that just completed the 1st Annual TC Metro Tour de Trails...

...we'll post more details in a short while, but we had a blast on the trail yesterday! :banana: As you might have read in the earlier June Trails Ride threads, it was a bit touch and go as to wether or not we were going to do Terrace Oaks.

I'm pretty sure that the other 4 riders will concur, we're really glad that we decided to include the trail in our journey, it was a real blast and our Tour just wouldn't have been complete without riding it! It highlighted for me how cool it is that there's variety in MORCs trails, each one of them offers riders something slightly different (BTW, the final drop in/hill slope sections were AWESOME fun!).

Hat's off to everyone that supervises and works on TO! I'm much more likely to venture out there now that I've been exposed to it.

trompete
06-25-2006, 10:14 AM
Anybody been at Terrace today? I know we got rain last night.

nigel
06-25-2006, 12:11 PM
I would give it a bit more time to dry. The trail usually dries very fast so perhaps around 2 or so, check it out and post up!

D

Aberrix
06-28-2006, 07:40 PM
the trails we're dry and really nice! it was perfect out!

trompete
07-03-2006, 09:01 AM
Trail was dry last night...a little dusty.

trompete
07-05-2006, 09:36 PM
Dryer. ......

trompete
07-08-2006, 11:36 AM
Tacky this morning

grizzly adam
07-08-2006, 01:56 PM
Fast and dry this afternoon

JHM
07-10-2006, 04:13 PM
Terrace was hard and dry today, but not too dusty.

Doug,
There was a small load of dirt in the lot. Was it for trailwork?

trompete
07-12-2006, 06:13 AM
Was tacky at 4:30 yesterday afternoon, but I bet it will be bone dry by this afternoon.

Aberrix
07-18-2006, 07:52 AM
Trail was pretty dry and dusty last night (5pm), I washed out on one of the turns going a little too fast because of the loose (dry) dirt... there was also some loose branched on the trails but other than that it was great!

trompete
07-23-2006, 10:39 PM
Trail was very dry tonight. Rock garden near the beginning is coming loose, and much of the expert section is loose too. Found out the hard way by going over the handlebars. Not hurt. Just got really dirty ;)

manual63
07-23-2006, 11:19 PM
Not hurt. Just got really dirty ;)

The cure:

Take a shower and come see me in the morning....oh wait, you are going to see me in the morning anyway.....:p

trompete
08-02-2006, 06:33 PM
Just got back from riding.

It's fine to ride except a couple damp spots where you guys put down fresh dirt a few weeks ago.

There are two trees down:
1. 1/2 mile from the start, it actually looks like a planned log roll.
2. Large tree fell on the ski trail. You have to get off and walk around it. Bring a chainsaw for this one!

Benjamin Severns
08-03-2006, 02:34 PM
Trail was great today, and the logs are there, but the one that fell on the ski trail is more like a whole tree. If you get over to the left of it, and you're a little bit shorter (like me) you can squeeze through, and it's actually pretty fun.

trompete
08-03-2006, 02:37 PM
Ha. crazy bastard. Are you 5'0"? :)

nigel
08-03-2006, 03:29 PM
I should be able to get out there Saturday around 6 to remove the trees, I cant get out earlier than that :(

gmargolf
08-03-2006, 09:50 PM
With the down tree on the ski trail atthe end, couldn't the city get involved to saw and remove?

slothlike
08-03-2006, 10:04 PM
Doug, let me know if you need a hand - I should be back by then.

nigel
08-03-2006, 11:47 PM
With the down tree on the ski trail atthe end, couldn't the city get involved to saw and remove?

No need, we'll get it thats what we're there for, just has to be Sat for me.

nigel
08-03-2006, 11:47 PM
Doug, let me know if you need a hand - I should be back by then.
Cooly Ted, we'll chat about it Fri on our ride in the a.m. Aaron is coming too.

Benjamin Severns
08-04-2006, 06:36 AM
Ha. crazy bastard. Are you 5'0"? :)


well more like 5'6" but i just crouch down a little bit.

nigel
08-08-2006, 02:30 PM
Crazy sweet out there today, get out and ride!

sakmeister
08-15-2006, 08:23 AM
Trail was in great shape last night. I only saw deer on the trail...no other bikers in sight.

trompete
08-18-2006, 10:07 PM
Trail was tacky tonight, and the ski trail was even packed down.

trompete
08-23-2006, 08:17 PM
The trail was tacky tonight.

The climb after the open field is getting sandy and rutted out. Not sure what the options for it are considering the terrain it's in.

nigel
08-23-2006, 09:06 PM
The trail was tacky tonight.

The climb after the open field is getting sandy and rutted out. Not sure what the options for it are considering the terrain it's in.

Which one? The one at the end or the one in the middle? Both have things in the works :)

trompete
08-23-2006, 09:15 PM
Now that I think about it, both :). Now I'm curious what's in the works.

ebrandel
08-25-2006, 06:30 PM
Any guess on conditions for tomorrow? Was planning on taking my wife out there tomorrow, probably around 10-11am. Is it still going to be too wet?

ebrandel
08-26-2006, 02:26 PM
I'll answer my own question. Trail was open, but might really need another day to really dry out.

trompete
08-26-2006, 02:59 PM
Just got back from riding. Was nice and soft. A few tire tracks from people who rode yesterday, but otherwise great! Ski trail section was even dry.

nigel
08-26-2006, 08:28 PM
Any guess on conditions for tomorrow? Was planning on taking my wife out there tomorrow, probably around 10-11am. Is it still going to be too wet?

Yeah it was open :crazy: Sorry I was at Afton so could not respond.

bigwheel
09-12-2006, 10:02 PM
Got a chance to ride Terrace today. It was in perfect shape. I had entire trail to myself.

For those of you who are not familiar with Terrace Oaks: This is a sweet trail, only about 3 miles away from the hustle and bustle of Leb. If you want nice singletrack without the man-made obstacles and big crowds, you need to check this one out.

Many thanks to the crew for keeping this trail in such good condition.

trompete
09-23-2006, 01:01 PM
Anybody been out there today? I'm thinking about riding over there. I know it recovers a little faster than some parts of leb.

trompete
09-24-2006, 03:36 PM
Trail is fine to ride. Only saw one puddle. If you're sitting around waiting for leb to open, go warm up at Terrace!

nigel
10-04-2006, 04:53 PM
Trail is in great shape right now!

NOTE:::The new log ride feature is NOT COMPLETE and has several logs pulled over it, please do not move them to ride it as it is unsafe to ride right now. It will be complete on Tuesday night. There is a fair amount of work left to do in there so please stay out and do not move anything.

Thanks,
Douglas

Preview of unfinished log ride below.

Stage 1 (cleaing the fall zone)
http://static.flickr.com/88/260958597_350abf41cf.jpg?v=0

Bob during stage 2 (top cut)
http://static.flickr.com/90/260957547_190e1d1f2b.jpg?v=0

Stage 3 complete (enterance)
http://static.flickr.com/122/260952694_dbad879bbd.jpg?v=0

After stage 4 (the tiny boardwalk Aaron is about to ride on)
http://static.flickr.com/99/260953922_db984dad04.jpg?v=0

Looking at partial of stage 5, you'd be riding towards the camera (off camber turn)
http://static.flickr.com/113/260954989_94a3f8dadf.jpg?v=0

Stage 6 will be the exit area completion, this will be done on Tuesday after we finish up the turn and make it all safe like.


more pix here http://www.flickr.com/photos/93558807@N00/

tns1972
10-04-2006, 08:44 PM
We rode Terrace tonight as a warm up for Leb, trail was very nice. We did notice the new feature, can't wait for it to open!:banana: That log ride looks sweet! Huge thanks to all invovled. Trail work next Tuesday you say?

Shorty
10-04-2006, 08:56 PM
When does Terrace close for the season?

nigel
10-04-2006, 09:57 PM
When does Terrace close for the season?


October 15th my man.

Nickel
10-04-2006, 10:30 PM
October 15th my man.

Seriously? :shocked: Why is it so early?

nigel
10-04-2006, 10:36 PM
Seriously? :shocked: Why is it so early?

The City Of Burnsville sets the close dates to all of their parks. We have asked it to be moved to a later date several times to no avail. I am and will continue to pursue this issue as much as possible.

Douglas

trompete
10-06-2006, 08:06 AM
Rode yesterday. There were several people on the trail..more than I've seen all summer. Trail was in good condition.

Damn burnsville for closing this in 10 days!

Shorty
10-06-2006, 11:05 AM
The City Of Burnsville sets the close dates to all of their parks. We have asked it to be moved to a later date several times to no avail. I am and will continue to pursue this issue as much as possible.


Anything the general public can do to help (Burnsville residents, or even non-residents)?

Call someone at the city, send an email, etc.?

nigel
10-06-2006, 11:11 AM
Anything the general public can do (Burnsville residents, or even non-residents)?

Call someone at the city, send an email, etc.?


http://www.burnsville.org/email.asp

Try leaving feedback on that link. The more people that ask and make it known that the trail is used more than they think the better the chance they will allow a later close date. No reason to close it until they start xc ski prep.

D

syntaxjunkie
10-06-2006, 11:48 AM
How about setting fire to an exorbitant suburban home?

That's always worked so well for EarthFirst...

Kidding, people. Kidding.

bikeoutback
10-06-2006, 12:17 PM
I sent a feedback just to see what they respond with, would be nice to have Terrace Oaks open longer.

trompete
10-06-2006, 01:38 PM
I just sent an email too. I hope they get it.

bigwheel
10-06-2006, 01:59 PM
I just sent an email too. I hope they get it.

Good. I'd have to believe that Burnsville residents will have a bigger say.

It definitely helps to let them know that the city has a group of registered voters pushing for mountain biking.

bakkeb
10-13-2006, 04:50 PM
Rode T.O. today and the new log ride is fun!!! Too short though. We need more features like that throughout the whole trail. There is a very large tree down that blocks two parts of the trail. It's right before you get to the new log ride. I know the trail probably closes Sun. but I thought I would point it out anyways.:etard:

nigel
10-13-2006, 07:36 PM
Rode T.O. today and the new log ride is fun!!! Too short though. We need more features like that throughout the whole trail. There is a very large tree down that blocks two parts of the trail. It's right before you get to the new log ride. I know the trail probably closes Sun. but I thought I would point it out anyways.:etard:

Glad ya liked it :) Well as far as the length we had to work with what was there, it was supposed to be the enitre tree, but it was rotted in the middle so we made up for it as best we could. I'll get the tree out but it will be after the trail is closed.

D

deepindakotacounty
04-15-2007, 02:40 PM
Anyone checked on this trail lately? I tried to find it on my bike today but thought it was on 35/77, and not where it is on 35/11. I was still about 3 miles away. I'm thinking about going after work (sans bike) to check out the trail and see what's shaking.

P.S. Who's the dirtboss for this trail?

tedsti
04-15-2007, 02:52 PM
Doug Holtz is the Trail Sterard for Terrance. I believe Burnsville sets an open date of May 15 or something regardless of the weather.

nigel
04-15-2007, 05:17 PM
The trail is closed at the moment. I will post up more as opening date approaches, trailwork will also begin soon! Keep watching!

Douglas

crux
04-16-2007, 12:15 AM
Was out at TO the other day trail running and it is still way to wet to consider riding.

wavlngth
04-24-2007, 07:34 PM
Does anyone know if Terrace Oaks is open yet? Please post up. Thanks!

nigel
04-24-2007, 08:47 PM
Terrace Opens between May 1-15th depending on weather.

gmargolf
04-30-2007, 06:55 PM
Was out today walking the trail and ther were 3-4 big trees down though out the trail. The first is right at the begining of the trail blocking the entrance. Second was about 5 minutes past this right on the trail. A third was over on the expert side, a massive one, blocking the trail right at the down hill switch back. There are plenty of tire tracks through out the trail, obviously somebody not paying attention to the closure, luckily the trail is nearly bone dry. But with the tree down on the expert side, everybody is blazing there own shortcut on the side going downhill causing damage. May need to be taken care of ASAP to stop further damage. Any way to get out there in the next week or two to get these trees out of the way so it is ready by opening weekend next week????

nigel
04-30-2007, 09:46 PM
I took this Tuesday off for this specific reason. Issues known and should be gone this week! :banana:

Tizzo
05-01-2007, 01:06 PM
Anyone get a chance to check out the trail today? According to Burnsville's website the trail is open, however it did rain last night. I'm stuck in an office until 5 and was hoping to hit it tonite.

nigel
05-01-2007, 02:35 PM
Late afternoon it should be dry, however I had some things come up and have not been able to get out and clear the trees. I'll be a bit late on it I'm afraid.

D

gmargolf
05-01-2007, 09:16 PM
Let me know when you are out there Doug if you need any help....

wavlngth
05-02-2007, 11:28 AM
Anyone get a chance to check out the trail today? According to Burnsville's website the trail is open, however it did rain last night. I'm stuck in an office until 5 and was hoping to hit it tonite.

I drove out to Terrace Oaks for a ride expecting it to be open based on this post. The "Bike Trail Closed" sign is still up. What's up?

Tim

decoeric
05-02-2007, 11:30 AM
I was over there last night and found the same thing. I went and walked some of the trail and it seemed fairly dry. Seemed odd that Lebanon was open and Terrace wasn't?

Tizzo
05-02-2007, 12:15 PM
I was over there last night and found the same thing. I went and walked some of the trail and it seemed fairly dry. Seemed odd that Lebanon was open and Terrace wasn't?

Just called the city, they said they were a day late and should get someone out today to open the trail.:D

decoeric
05-02-2007, 03:00 PM
Cool, I think I will go and check it out after work.

nigel
05-02-2007, 10:10 PM
Tree's will be gone soon. Please walk your bike over if you cannot ride them and do not ride around them!

D

trompete
05-03-2007, 08:25 AM
Ok, so we're open now?

decoeric
05-03-2007, 09:51 AM
I rode there last night, went 2 laps it was great. It was my first time there. Saw a total of 9 deer on the trail. Perfect night for riding.

David Madison
05-03-2007, 10:03 AM
So all the down trees from the winter are still there ? Do we have a date they will be cleared or can someone post up when the trail is clear. The x loop had a pretty big tree down that is not rideable and would be difficult to carry over without going off trail.

nigel
05-03-2007, 11:15 AM
I will try and get them Friday in the a.m. That darn job i have ya know, I cant get out asap all the time :crazy:

decoeric
05-03-2007, 01:45 PM
If I owned a chain saw I would have cut them up last night, but I don't. But at least the thought was there.

nigel
05-04-2007, 02:43 PM
Trees cleared up! There is one on the section of trail prior to the log ride that can easily be ridden over, until I can get out with a chain saw. There is also the one in the "x" section that will take some time to remove with a chain saw, I did however temporarily re-open the old downhill to the right of it, just be careful and dont get used to it! Trail is all clear to ride every way though.

D

David Madison
05-06-2007, 04:22 PM
Huge tree down just past where the tree blew down on the last day of the season last year. This one is bigger than the one on the x loop.

nigel
05-06-2007, 07:24 PM
Huge tree down just past where the tree blew down on the last day of the season last year. This one is bigger than the one on the x loop.

We talking the big one that was right at the end of the doubletrack uphill to the "rest area" on top before the exit? I'll be out Tuesday morning for it at the soonest.

David Madison
05-06-2007, 08:15 PM
I meant the one that fell across the hairpin about 200 yards before the new log ride. The one that fell today is in the same area, but bigger.

gmargolf
05-06-2007, 08:29 PM
Ya, its right before you hit the new log ride. The tree itself is huge, but the actual branches blocking the trail are not to bad, just alot of them....

nigel
05-07-2007, 09:32 AM
Ahhh ok, too many trees fall there to keep track of! Nothing has been as big as the one that blocked the trail exit last year, that took hours to clear. I'll be out Tuesday to clear.

D

nigel
05-08-2007, 06:10 PM
Trees cleared on the main trails. The "x" section will have to wait until Saturday or Tuesday. I was out there for near 5 hours today and got tired :crazy: It's amazing what a skinny guy a helper a chain saw and a 100' of rope can do!

decoeric
05-22-2007, 07:02 PM
I rode oaks today before the rain started and at .97 miles in there is a huge branch down across the trail. I tried to clear as much as I could but the bulk of it is to heavy to lift for 1 person... So keep your eyes out for it. You make a turn to the right and there it is so be careful...

nigel
05-22-2007, 09:58 PM
All the trees were cleared up tonight during trail work :)

decoeric
05-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Hey thanks for clearing the trail. I just want you to know that I really appreciate all of the work that you guys do on Terrace Oaks. I ride there a lot and I have no been able to make it to a trail work night but I am planning on it. I figure since I do use the trail I should come out some night and help work on it. But I really do try to help with the trail during my rides. Yesterday for example I save a rather large painted turtle from certian death when I came across him or her on the double track portion of the trail. :banana: But the trail is in great shape and a lot of fun... Thanks for keeping it that way.

eric

gmargolf
05-30-2007, 02:24 PM
Was dry as a bone through out the entire trail with T-storms on the way..

David Madison
05-30-2007, 08:51 PM
Big tree down across the double track just after the X- loop. Difficult to get by on either side. It just never ends at Terrace does it?

nigel
05-30-2007, 08:55 PM
Geeze, another tree! I'll try and get out asap, but I don't think it will be until Tuesday. I work straight through till then.

bigwheel
05-31-2007, 05:23 PM
Cleared out the humungo tree, along with the head thumper later in the section. There are now another billion homeless carpenter ants.

Based on what I heard from the couple riders, the rest of the trail is rideable,but there are a couple damp spots in the normal low area.

nigel
05-31-2007, 09:44 PM
Thanks Bob!!!!!!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana::banana::banana::banana:

trompete
06-06-2007, 10:06 AM
6/6/07 - Tacky in most places, slick in a couple. More rain is coming today, so that won't last for long.

dakotabuck
06-17-2007, 05:40 PM
Sunday 6/17
Trial is tacky and fast. Couple of low hanging branches.
Overall Good Condition

JHM
07-12-2007, 12:00 PM
I rode T.O. yesterday. Only saw two other riders. In general the trail is in good shape. It could use some mowing at the entrance. I cleared the overhanging branches for the most part and some other nasties.

nigel
08-07-2007, 06:43 PM
Very nice and dry (but not all dusty). Nothing in the way, get out and ride!

ryno lite
08-25-2007, 09:34 PM
Trail is tacky and in great riding condition. I really should ride there more. Had the whole place to myself. Great job Doug and John and your crew for all the work out there. There are a couple of low trees that need to be cut out. A hand saw will work for these. The one is really early in the trail not far from the lot. Other than that, the trail is in pretty good condition.

nigel
08-26-2007, 09:15 PM
Thank Ryan, I'll be out sometime this week i hope to get the tree's, probably around the weekend though.

ryno lite
08-26-2007, 09:51 PM
Thank Ryan, I'll be out sometime this week i hope to get the tree's, probably around the weekend though.


Thanks Doug and great job! What a fun little place to ride and not have to deal with the crowds!

MikeyB
08-29-2007, 08:21 PM
T.O. was good tonight, little tacky. There are about 4 LARGE trees down over the trails that need a chainsaw. On the advanced loop there are some ruts from the water run off. Also someone decided to add a quick log pile from some of the downed trees which was in a nice spot but might need some updating. Basically T.O. needs some trail work.

nigel
08-29-2007, 08:35 PM
Yeah with all the storms I figured trees would be down. I just happened to pick up one of the MORC saw of chains from Troy L tonight :)

decoeric
09-03-2007, 09:21 PM
Rode Terrace tonight, the trail is in perfect shape and was really fun. There is one tree down about .6 miles into the trail that was pretty big. And another small one a little further on that some other riders have made into a small log pile so it is very easy to ride over... This is a great little trail. Thanks!

nigel
09-04-2007, 06:56 AM
Thanks for the update, consider them trees gone sometime between 4-9 tonight.

bigwheel
09-11-2007, 09:59 AM
Monday 9/10 8pm

Trail was in decent shape. Mostly tacky, damp in only a couple small spots.

There were a few low branches, but nothing that you can't easily duck under.

Beware of the tree down on the first ski trail downhill. There is a "hole" to ride through at speed, but pay attention.

Rutted in a couple parts of the ski trail. If you ride in the rut, it's a good way to slow down people that are closely riding your tail and following your line.

To the T.O. crew: Thanks for keeping this trail ridable.

nigel
09-11-2007, 10:33 AM
Thanks Bob, we'll be out this afternoon to clear things up!

syntaxjunkie
09-15-2007, 04:15 PM
rode terrace oaks for the first time this year today. doug and the crew have done great work to keep this trail in shape and make it better every year. a little loose and sandy in spots, but infinitely rideable and a barrel of fun. thanks, folks!
:banana:

nigel
09-16-2007, 04:37 PM
Glad to hear you had a good ride, did your knee have flashbacks?

D

syntaxjunkie
09-16-2007, 08:04 PM
Glad to hear you had a good ride, did your knee have flashbacks?
oh no. i've long since moved on to other injuries. ;-)
although i have to say i thought about it every time i passed that little jog around the tree by the hairpin switchback in the x loop. i am now very, very conscious of that tree's existence.

nigel
09-22-2007, 06:13 AM
Anyone heading out today (Sat)? I will be out of town till Sunday afternoon, so please post up if there are trees down or the likes from the storm.

Thanks,
D

bdags
09-22-2007, 02:32 PM
Anyone heading out today (Sat)? I will be out of town till Sunday afternoon, so please post up if there are trees down or the likes from the storm.

Thanks,
D

No trees down...great shape.

kiano
09-28-2007, 03:35 PM
What is the status of Terrace Oks?

nigel
09-28-2007, 08:42 PM
Should be all set for the weekend.

waitabit
10-07-2007, 07:23 PM
Trail was good today, a couple slick spots but overall good.Small tree down on the gravel dobletrack coming out, not a good spot on a downhill, careful.

Thanx to the guy who put my phone on my bumper after he saw it fall out of my pocket, you restored my faith in humanity!:D

trompete
05-15-2008, 12:10 PM
Trail's in great shape besides a few face slappers. Some parts are dry. Others are tacky. Go ride and enjoy this fantastic weather.

gmargolf
06-05-2008, 01:14 PM
Tacky at best. With tonights rains I would stay off for awhile....

nigel
06-09-2008, 07:29 PM
Terrace is open and fine to ride! A few sticky spots but nothing to keep people away.

D

trompete
06-13-2008, 11:42 AM
6/13 11:30 AM

Tacky in most places
Slick in a couple where the trail needs to be de-bermed.
Moved a tree that was down
Another tree is down and needs a hand-saw to remove it on the first half

nigel
06-13-2008, 12:20 PM
6/13 11:30 AM

Tacky in most places
Slick in a couple where the trail needs to be de-bermed.
Moved a tree that was down
Another tree is down and needs a hand-saw to remove it on the first half


Roughly where is the tree? I'll be out Saturday.

trompete
06-13-2008, 01:01 PM
After the log ride I saw you guys building but before the open field between sections. I looked for a map of the trail on this site and google but didn't find anything.

Eye Poker
06-14-2008, 05:16 PM
Trail is almost all dry. A few greasy spots but all in all a great ride. Tree is down about 1/3 mile in or so. After you come back near the lake and climb again it is at the 1st or 2nd switch back. There was a good crowd today and we all arrived at about the same time but everybody was moving quickly as the ground is dry and FAST.

trompete
06-26-2008, 01:02 PM
Trail is mostly dry, even tacky in some places. Getting overgrown in the grassy areas. Watch out for eye pokers on the ski trail section. Those really hurt.

nigel
06-28-2008, 03:02 PM
"If" it does not rain again trail will be good to ride by 5pm tonight. It's not too bad out on it, but best to stay off. If it going to rain again just steer clear.